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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <4AWIaLMopGT1GC7PL2qXanj8Vec@jntp> JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: On Arindam Banerjee's recoil-less rail gun and Newton's 3rd Law violations in electrodynamics References: <uvb7db$2bj35$1@tor.dont-email.me> <e7b18fbbd25aef1edf75d3fd7baa053a@www.novabbs.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: RtY4kN3ke1F2MfxKgaFanh-2_RY JNTP-ThreadID: uvb7db$2bj35$1@tor.dont-email.me JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=4AWIaLMopGT1GC7PL2qXanj8Vec@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Sat, 27 Apr 24 06:36:56 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/121.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Edg/121.0.0.0 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="601f4a4a60dc6043f0c3ab83656fd85fb6bc327d"; logging-data="2024-04-27T06:36:56Z/8833185"; posting-account="219@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> Bytes: 4929 Lines: 79 Le 27/04/2024 à 12:28, bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) a écrit : > Aether Regained wrote: > >> @ArindamBanerjee > >> I took a look at your video of your 'recoil-less' rail gun: > >> My Movie8feb2022 > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYtyOMbgiZ0 > >> My first impression was that, there is an obvious recoil of the 'gun' or >> rails+supercapacitors section, but you claim in the description that: > >> "... we are creating momentum from internal energy/force in this >> experiment. The heavy (3Kg) armature is accelerated by electromagnetic >> forces. There is a recoil, the rest of the apparatus weighs 4.3Kg - BUT >> THAT IS DUE TO THE FRICTION FROM THE ROLLING ARMATURE. ... As I have >> shown in my other videos, the force that accelerates the armature has >> very little recoil, and this new effect can be used to make reactionless >> motors for the proper conquest of space." > >> You have worked on this for a long time, but I think you are maybe >> overlooking that whatever electromagnetic forces act on the current >> flowing through the rolling bar/'armature', near [*] exactly opposite >> electromagnetic forces will act on the other end of the rails, i.e., on >> the oppositely flowing current through the supercapacitors, and the >> center-of-mass of the whole system will remain near stationary. > > That is not the case, so this is a new discovery - the Lorentz force does NOT > have an equal and opposite reaction. > Your point is merely theoretical. > My evidence is experimental. > >> [*] It is well known that in electrodynamics, Newton's 3rd law is >> inexact, namely it will appear to be violated if the momentum in the >> aether or em field is not also considered. I urge you to carefully read >> FLP-II:26-2, especially the last paragraph, and also FLP-II:27-6 on the >> (Electromagnetic) Field Momentum. > > I urge you to repeat my experiments honestly and competently instead of > persisting with theory proved wrong. > >> https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_27.html#Ch27-S6 > >> "FLP-II:27-6: We pointed out in Section 26–2 the failure of the law of >> action and reaction when two charged particles were moving on orthogonal >> trajectories. The forces on the two particles don’t balance out, so the >> action and reaction are not equal; therefore the net momentum of the >> matter must be changing. It is not conserved. But the momentum in the >> field is also changing in such a situation. If you work out the amount >> of momentum given by the Poynting vector, it is not constant. HOWEVER, >> THE CHANGE OF THE PARTICLE MOMENTA IS JUST MADE UP BY THE FIELD >> MOMENTUM, SO THE TOTAL MOMENTUM OF PARTICLES PLUS FIELD IS CONSERVED." > > Blah blah. Theoretical stuff. One may as well say the sun goes around the Earth > because holy books and great people and Aristotle say so. > >> I think it is premature to believe that your inconclusive results can be >> the basis of a space motor. For that purpose, you may want to take a >> look at PROJECT ORION: > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion) > >> which is a design by the late Freeman Dyson, that works, and does not >> involve continuously ejecting mass. > > Diversion, how unscientific. > > Disgusted. > > bt (The ghostly cyberdogs of Arindam who know better physics than Nobel > laureates) Good boys, Bertie and Tyler. Pat-pat. "When will they ever learn?" Cheers, Arindam Banerjee