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Path: ...!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 15:29:17 +0000 Subject: Re: joke (or riddle, puzzle) about Language, and/or Math, Comp.Sci. Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,sci.math,comp.lang.lisp References: <35f7e98e427411a88bfd76eb90a67bbb@www.novabbs.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 08:29:12 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <35f7e98e427411a88bfd76eb90a67bbb@www.novabbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <4ZicnftAWvRQjr_1nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 128 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-Gxf2R2QaiMpwgM52tp4V8NDHX13oCmuRQKmzTJWw6Ao0IRCUon7vPgKgeMIVjJuYCepUKcHLTvrSoFd!Ia2Bkd4lPGE1bXRdHHA18VvnZraal0DS2IFLSh9EKaNchJe7+sjW1TnUH4J0Fxl92qWXVD0YvMQ= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4890 On 05/11/2025 11:36 PM, HenHanna wrote: > Please tell me a good joke (or riddle, puzzle) that > is about Language, and/or Math, Comp.Sci......... > > > > "The new Pope has a mathematics degree (from Villanova > University). So he not only has a good understanding of sins, but > also cosines and tans." > > -------- and also of Secs (Sex) and Cots ! Now under a bigger hat. There is a "sex" function as of a sort of inverse exponent or "ise", about powers and roots, it's up after operator calculus, about this sort of thing: 2+2 = 4 2*2 = 4 2^2 = 4 2 = 1+1 2 = root 2 * root 2 2 = x^x So I'm looking for the form of x^x = y, then the Internet says it can find the y' th derivative, and then talks about Lambert W function, yet I'm wondering about x^x=2, because 2 is a lucky number since a bunch of its operations all result the same product. 1-1=0 1*1=1 1^1=1 5/4 ^ 5/4 1.5596119 ^ 1.5596119 ~ 2.00000413265 1.559610375 ^ 1.559610375 ~ 1.99999972711 1.5596104694 ^ 1.5596104694 ~ 1.559610469463 ^ 1.559610469463 ~ 2 Aw, dang, the Inverse Symbolic Calculator is down and has been for some time, tragique. "2 LN LAMBERTW e^x = 1.55961046946" https://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-bin/archv018.cgi?read=132639 "x = e^W(log(2)) ~ 1.55961046946..." -- http://voodooguru23.blogspot.com/2020/06/the-omega-constant-and-lambert-w.html https://old.reddit.com/r/calculus/comments/1gr14zd/how_would_an_equation_like_this_be_solved/?rdt=63191 "After reading tons about it for the past few years, I'm pretty much convinced that indeed [Lambert's W]'s a firm candidate for the next "elementary" transcendental function to be added to the classic trigonometric, exponential, and logarithmic ones (which, essentially, can all be reduced to exponentials and inverse exponentials (i.e. logarithms) of arbitrary complex values)." Re: Lambert's W on the HP-33s Message #13 Posted by Valentin Albillo on 12 Feb 2008, 6:46 a.m., https://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-bin/archv018.cgi?read=132639 https://eric.ed.gov/?q=%22A+new+elementary+function+for+our+curricula%22&id=EJ720055 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_W_function https://mathworld.wolfram.com/LambertW-Function.html "W(1) can be considered ... a sort of golden ratio ... since e^(-W(1)) = W(1)" e to the ..., zero minus ..., these sorts things then can get windows and boxed about 2, and its terms, the convolutive, and about zero, and its terms. "Occurrances of Lambert's Function" On the Lambert W Function University of Waterloo https://cs.uwaterloo.ca › 1993/03 › W.pdf "The solution of x^x^a = b is exp(W (a log b)/a)," .... 1.559610469463 + e^(1/e) ~ 3.004 So, finding x^x = 2 sort of gets to oscillating, about 0^0 and 1^1, then about x^2 +- 1, these kinds of things. 1 = 1 2'nd root 2 = 1.41421356237... x = 1.55961046946... Then, I'm looking ar figuring out a different sort of function than Lambert's W and its branches, "inverse self exponent", say, figuring that if Lambert's W is a transcendental function that about deserves to be an elementary function, then like other sorts elementary functions there are orthogonal functions, then the entire body of work of transforms can be applied to that, figuring out some trajectifolds. Here though mostly what's of interest is windowing and boxing about a 2x2 square, in the convolutive setting, i.e. symmetrically, up and down operations about the hypergeometric of course, or boxing 0, 1, infinity into a 2x2 square about 0, 1, 2.