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From: wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Any honest person that knows the x86 language can see...
 predict correctly
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2024 12:34:38 +0800
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On Wed, 2024-07-31 at 23:24 -0500, olcott wrote:
> On 7/31/2024 11:03 PM, wij wrote:
> > On Wed, 2024-07-31 at 22:51 -0500, olcott wrote:
> > > On 7/31/2024 10:08 PM, wij wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2024-07-30 at 18:50 -0500, olcott wrote:
> > > > >=20
> > > > > It is not supposed to be a general solution to the halting proble=
m.
> > > > > it only shows how the "impossible" input is correctly determined
> > > > > to be non halting.
> > > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > But how do you determine it is non-halting?
> > > >=20
> > > > As I know you are even unable to define what 'halt' mean !!!
> > > >=20
> > > I have done this thousands of times and after someone
> > > has read these thousands of times they say that I never
> > > said it once.
> > >=20
> > > void DDD()
> > > {
> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 HHH(DDD);
> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 return;
> > > }
> > >=20
> > > int main()
> > > {
> > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 HHH(DDD);
> > > }
> > >=20
> > > If DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly
> > > reach its return instruction then it never halts.
> > >=20
> > >=20
> >=20
> > That's right, HHH(DDD) as shown should never halt.
> >=20
>=20
> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates=
 its input D
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 until H correctly determines that its simulated =
D would never
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 stop running unless aborted then
>=20
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 H can abort its simulation of D and correctly re=
port that D
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 specifies a non-halting sequence of configuratio=
ns.
> </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>=20
>=20
> > But The Halting Problem asks HHH to return 1 or 0 (so to speak, because=
 you
> > don't know the detail).
> >=20
> > Since HHH does not return 1 or 0 to answer the question, it is not a de=
cider.
> > You are dealing with POO Problem.
> >=20
>=20

GUR says the halting problem is undecidable.
You can pull your god to support your claim (like DJT?) again, but GUR says=
 it won't work.