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From: joes <noreply@example.org>
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Subject: Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from its input to HHH emulating
 itself emulating DDD --- anyone that says otherwise is a liar
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Am Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:19:43 -0600 schrieb olcott:
> On 11/21/2024 3:11 PM, joes wrote:
>> Am Thu, 21 Nov 2024 09:19:03 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 11/20/2024 10:00 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 11/20/24 9:57 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 11/20/2024 5:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/20/24 5:03 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/20/2024 3:53 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-20 03:23:12 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/19/2024 4:12 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-18 20:42:02 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/2024 3:41 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The "the mapping" on the subject line is not correct. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> subject line does not specify which mapping and there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>> larger context that could specify that. Therefore it should
>>>>>>>>>>>> be "a mapping".
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-17 18:36:17 +0000, olcott said:
>> 
>>>>> My code is one example of the infinite set of every possible HHH
>>>>> that emulates DDD according to the semantics of the x86 language.
>> Like all of them, it is unable to simulate DDD to its undeniable
>> halting state.
> In your case you may simply not even understand what infinite recursion
> is, thus cannot see the isomorphism.


>>>> But it gets the wrong answer for the halting problem, as DDD dpes
>>>> halt.
>>> DDD emulated by HHH does not halt.
>> Whatever. DDD halts and HHH should return that.
> IT IS NOT THE SAME INSTANCE OF DDD.
All instances of DDD behave the same (if it is a pure function and
the HHH called from it doesn't switch behaviour by a static variable).

> HHH is reporting on the behavior of its INPUT.
And its input is (the encoding of) DDD.

> HHH is not reporting on the behavior of some other different DDD
> instance that behaves differently.
You mean the same DDD when it is not simulated?

>> I can make a "decider" this way: it simulates no steps at all and
>> returns that all inputs halt when simulated by it.
Then it is never wrong about its own result.

>>> Are you a fake Christian?
>> I am a fake Scientologist.
> That may be the correct Scientologist to be.
We can solve this conundrum by rejecting Scientologists as incorrect.

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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.