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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Savard <quadibloc@servername.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Concertlina II: Full Circle Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 21:36:06 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 21 Message-ID: <4dk47j1pimbd443oeh06p36ickbdklr2ni@4ax.com> References: <132536f47d1b160ad3ad0340fc479c1d@www.novabbs.org> <v4c17j5eo503i93fb7imjpom5jqs3oivtv@4ax.com> <50c85586e1aec0eef53e83cef7cb1d5d@www.novabbs.org> <4mb37jdb25571s1q1pjlc3ludaaks7tukr@4ax.com> <e4c37jd4l9spbi5b23b525unp9p60ird8q@4ax.com> <1401408dead0bbc0b1e2ea7e053c873a@www.novabbs.org> <fbn37jpc0banppburc1t6r4hnp3kih23ui@4ax.com> <adc60d6b4791061485b8290897609bb3@www.novabbs.org> <el047jt94n4eb0l3f829p1jnatncunm5dj@4ax.com> <b9790766475e970e390f6c88acba0577@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 05:36:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fb30c8793a6b7cbea4cbe55cb92cf4b7"; logging-data="1883318"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+VOd7mBFQBlRkiluyXMI3+9Rwzp9V0+6w=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:IQST+IzCyhFzOtZfiIUvQWK9eVs= X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 3.3/32.846 Bytes: 2379 On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 23:57:54 +0000, mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) wrote: >John Savard wrote: >> And so you indicate this explicitly in VVM as well. I tended to assume >> only a limited number of registers would be needed to live in, plus I >> have both floating and integer register files, hence the differences. > >It ends up that the majority of register uses in a loop do not need to >be visible outside of the loop. This is almost the contrapositive of >annotating which registers are temporary in the loop. 90%+ of loops do >not even need the index register to be live outside of the loop. > You have convinced me here to learn from your wisdom: I will do two things. One is to add a bit that decides whether my 1 bits (confined to a single group of 8 registers) are live-in or live-out bits. The other is to specify clearly to implementors that if a register is specified as "live-in" but is never actually used in a loop, this must not cause any problems. John Savard