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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture =?UTF-8?B?ZGVzaWduZXI/?= Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 14:37:12 +0000 Organization: Rocksolid Light Message-ID: <4e328273311f079f991992bb6f1d3abf@www.novabbs.org> References: <memo.20240913205156.19028s@jgd.cix.co.uk> <vcd3ds$3o6ae$2@dont-email.me> <2935676af968e40e7cad204d40cafdcf@www.novabbs.org> <vcd7pr$3op6a$3@dont-email.me> <a20365f1bdcad769edd9e1f840edb2fe@www.novabbs.org> <vcda96$3p3a7$2@dont-email.me> <21028ed32d20f0eea9a754fafdb64e45@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2534422"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="65wTazMNTleAJDh/pRqmKE7ADni/0wesT78+pyiDW8A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$Ph7pyR2gkNDspuv.1zzey.Cl513yX9rcY2PfIleG5A0L2UT8wb8zq X-Rslight-Posting-User: ac58ceb75ea22753186dae54d967fed894c3dce8 Bytes: 2694 Lines: 40 On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 13:34:16 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 1:27:03 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 00:57:59 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 0:44:44 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 23:45:50 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote: >>>> >>>>> "the CPUs are simply I/O managers to the Inference Engines and GPUs." >>>> >>>> That particular Wheel of Reincarnation will never turn that way. >>>> >>>> Why? It comes down to RAM. Those addon processors will never have >>>> access to the sheer quantity of RAM that is available to the CPU. And >>>> motherboard-based CPU RAM is upgradeable, as well, whereas addon cards >>>> tend not to offer this option. >>> >>> He showed a die figure with 256GB of DRAM stacked 8-deep and 2×4-wide. >> >> Was it upgradeable? Or was it soldered in? > > Soldered in. Onto modules that are easily replaceable. >> >>> ... all the CPU has to >>> do is program the I/O MMU to allow them to do their own thing, and deal >>> with the keyboard and mouse activities. >> >> That’s not how interactive timesharing worked in the old days, and it >> certainly won’t be sufficient for interactive work today. > > All the interaction is keyboard, mouse, display and internet. > The server can be located anywhere in the world. >> >> You *did* say “servers” though, didh’t you? > > > Yes, server, not something within 10 feet of user.