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From: joes <noreply@example.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly halt
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:05:53 -0000 (UTC)
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Am Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:30:00 -0500 schrieb olcott:
> On 7/11/2024 10:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 7/11/24 10:28 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 7/11/2024 9:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 7/11/24 10:51 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 7/10/2024 8:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/10/24 9:21 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/10/2024 8:11 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/10/24 9:01 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/10/2024 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/10/24 8:24 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/10/2024 7:01 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/10/24 9:41 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/10/2024 8:27 AM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am Tue, 09 Jul 2024 23:19:25 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/9/2024 11:01 PM, joes wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *DDD NEVER HALTS*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DDD ONLY calls HHH...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DDD correctly emulated by any pure function HHH that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly emulates 1 to ∞ lines of DDD can't make it to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> second line of DDD no matter what.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, DDD does if HHH(DDD) returns.
>>>>>>>>>>> DDD correctly emulated by any pure function HHH that correctly
>>>>>>>>>>> emulates 1 to ∞ lines of DDD can't make it to the second line
>>>>>>>>>>> of DDD no matter what.
>>>>>>>>>> WRONG, you don't seem to understand the difference between DDD
>>>>>>>>>> and HHH's emualtion of it.
>>>>>>> We stipulate that the only measure of a correct emulation is the
>>>>>>> semantics of the x86 programming language. By this measure when 1
>>>>>>> to ∞ steps of DDD are correctly emulated by each pure function x86
>>>>>>> emulator HHH (of the infinite set of every HHH that can possibly
>>>>>>> exist) then DDD cannot possibly reach its own machine address of
>>>>>>> 00002174 and halt.
>>>>>> By the semantic of the x86 programming language, the only correct
>>>>>> simulation is a FULL simulation
>>>>> In other words you are trying to get away with the lie that when 1
>>>>> step of DDD is correctly emulated that 0 steps of DDD are correctly
>>>>> emulated.
>>> When 1,2,3... ∞ steps of DDD are correctly emulated by HHH it is a lie
>>> to say that this many instructions were not correctly emulated and you
>>> know it.
>> But only N instructions "correctly emulated" is NOT a CORRECT
>> emulaition of the instructions of DDD/HHH
> I didn't limit it to N. Is this your ADD? I say 1 to infinity steps !!!
Please don't insult ADD people.
You did talk of an HHH that only simulated a fixed number of steps.
They do not provide a correct (full) simulation.
The only interesting case is infinitely many steps of a nonterminating
input.

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Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:52:17 -0500 schrieb olcott:
Objectively I am a genius.