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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 07:21:41 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <4f01f13c1e0c8773c52d4ec0aa398d01ca5f43f8@i2pn2.org> References: <vegfro$lk27$9@dont-email.me> <veimqs$14que$1@dont-email.me> <veipf3$15764$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:21:41 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1990314"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <veipf3$15764$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2019 Lines: 27 On 10/14/24 5:49 AM, olcott wrote: > On 10/14/2024 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-10-13 12:53:12 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> Although it is possible for LLM systems to lie: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination_(artificial_intelligence) >>> >>> ChatGPT does correctly apply truth preserving operations to >>> the premises that it was provided regarding the behavior of >>> DDD and HHH. *Try to find a mistake in its reasoning* >> >> No reasoning shown. >> > > https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e > > When you click on the link and try to explain how HHH must > be wrong when it reports that DDD does not terminate because > DDD does terminate it will explain your mistake to you. > > No, it admits that DDD does halt, but that HHH must be correct to say it doesn't, ... because of the lies you told it. Its reasoning is based on the incorrect presumption that the HHH that DDD calls is not part of the program DDD, because you have broken the definition of a program.