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From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Scientific Discoveries That Suggest Evolution Is False?
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 22:53:58 -0400
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On Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:54:57 -0700, erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 7/15/24 12:27 AM, jillery wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:03:39 -0700, erik simpson
>> <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On 7/9/24 8:52 PM, jillery wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 08:21:36 -0700, erik simpson
>>>> <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/9/24 1:23 AM, jillery wrote:
>>>>>> MSN has been posting a lot of nonsense from Creationists and =
cdesign
>>>>>> proponentsists recently. The following is an example:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =
<https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/mind-and-soul/scientific-discoveries=
-that-suggest-evolution-is-false/ss-BB1oN5KV?ocid=3Dhpmsn&cvid=3Dc43911ee=
82944a5598ad288c0bead685&ei=3D19#image=3D1>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/4na2jfrp>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From the article:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *************************************
>>>>>> For example, Darwin=E2=80=99s theory does a good job with the =
finch birds,
>>>>>> explaining how variations in weather patterns result in changes in=
the
>>>>>> shape and structure of the finch beaks. However, that mechanism =
does
>>>>>> not do a good job of explaining the origins of birds or other =
major
>>>>>> animal groups in the first place. So basically, innovation, no but
>>>>>> modification, yes.
>>>>>> **************************************
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The above should sound very familiar to regular T.O. readers, as =
it's
>>>>>> boilerplate from "Darwin's Doubt".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The following is a good example of the "innovation" which Darwin's
>>>>>> theory explains just fine, no intelligent designer required or
>>>>>> necessary:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitroplast>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endosymbiont>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(24)00182-X.pdf>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adk1075>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To my knowledge, nitroplasts haven't been mentioned in T.O. =
before.
>>>>>> They are a newly-discovered organelle in some algae, likely =
evolved
>>>>>> from endosymbiotic bacteria, just as are mitochondria and
>>>>>> chloroplasts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I've noticed MSN showing up in GoogleNews (science) category =
lately.
>>>>> It's pretty much all crap and should be ignored.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's both unethical and irresponsible to post Creationist and ID
>>>> claims as hard facts without identifying them as baseless opinions =
and
>>>> without identifying the source of these opinions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hey, it's Microsoft. Remember the classic choice: Abort Retry =
Ignore.
>>> Always go with Ignore.
>>=20
>>=20
>> Ignoring willful stupidity lets it grow and fester, as history and
>> recent events continue to demonstrate.
>>=20
>>=20
>https://xkcd.com/386/
That's what everybody does on T.O., including you. A subtle
distinction is people like me criticize the willfully stupid, while
people like you criticize people like me. Perhaps it has something to
do with free will. I leave as an exercise which behavior is better
for the froup.
--
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge