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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: 8 & 9 year old girls riding bicycles Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 08:30:59 +0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 107 Message-ID: <4ns3njl70qgfvrn8aadeopfmi7tfc03130@4ax.com> References: <vkibm0$2k6dp$4@dont-email.me> <vkjutj$31vi7$1@dont-email.me> <d12rmjp9frfabptifd3urpsfpti8q02c0b@4ax.com> <vklv5t$3hqna$1@dont-email.me> <4d3tmjpls6sgqp6oip46p5ac7rrgtjjcbh@4ax.com> <vkmegc$3l35p$8@dont-email.me> <vkmoh3$3npu0$1@dont-email.me> <tvrumjtb7855mroak7ih3fupt417g8b031@4ax.com> <vkp6e4$co6u$3@dont-email.me> <vkpbsk$e3n3$4@dont-email.me> <0m71nj9tc4jqml78qmg7mmgkou34gvhb8s@4ax.com> <vkrrvn$122sr$2@dont-email.me> <vks3k3$132mg$8@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 02:31:03 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f9e2d47ec1eba2f76491f2291943336c"; logging-data="1362616"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/rs0ur9MZ3nD9+x3fmpGq7n7jgwtDSQSs=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.10.32.1212 Cancel-Lock: sha1:CAMOFqosPeSZLZzzdvRvvmxYCZI= On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 12:15:31 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >On 12/29/2024 10:05 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 12/28/2024 8:17 PM, John B. wrote: >>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 11:18:13 -0600, AMuzi >>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 12/28/2024 9:45 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>> On 12/27/2024 10:40 PM, John B. wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 12:35:31 -0500, Frank Krygowski >>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As John has related in some detail, if someone does burst >>>>>>> into your home >>>>>>> and threatens violence, having a gun in the home is very >>>>>>> unlikely to help. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No, that isn't true. I had a gun which was stored in the >>>>>> bedroom. I >>>>>> was sitting, eating, at the table, in a different room >>>>>> when the three >>>>>> guys kicked the door in and rushed into the house. Had I >>>>>> been in the >>>>>> bed room when it happened it would have been a different >>>>>> story. >>>>> >>>>> "Coulda, woulda, shoulda..." >>>>> >>>>> You had a gun in your house, probably for "protection." You >>>>> are one of the tiny percentage of Americans who ever suffer >>>>> a true home invasion. Your gun did you no good, because you >>>>> don't go around inside your home with your gun always >>>>> within >>>>> easy reach. That latter fact is true of almost all gun >>>>> owners. >>>>> >>>>> Deal with it. >>> >>> Well, of course it wasn't in "America" ... >> >> And I didn't say you were. I said you were an American. >> >>> but I would comment that less >>> then a month after my "event" some one(ones?) walked up to >>> a house >>> about 50 yards from my house and shot and killed everyone >>> - three >>> people - in the house. >> >> John, are you pretending that if it had been your house, >> your quick draw skills would have made a difference? Really? >> >>> And using the term "America" is really, in my experience, >>> not an >>> accurate term for actives of the residents. I grew up in a >>> small New >>> England town where no one in living memory had been >>> deliberately shot >>> but when I worked in rural Georgia I discovered that >>> people shooting >>> people was, while not an every day happening, certainly >>> wasn't rare >>> either. >> >> IOW, you grew up in an area where people used guns only for >> hunting. And you repeatedly use that area as "proof" that >> guns in the home are not dangerous. But now you tell us >> about an area where guns in the home were or are dangerous. >> >> > >Mr Slocumb didn't say if that Georgia area had negligent >discharges or if those were defensive use. > >And to your comment about New England 70 years ago versus >our modern urban post-apocalyptic neighborhoods, please >review Mr Otis MacDonald: > My point was that when I was growing up there were no firearm accidents or crimes in my little town. I suppose I left out the "what happened" question but I'd assumed that Frank was intelligent enough to ask that question all by himself. As he obviously isn't I shall attempt to not make statements that I assume Frank is intelligent enough to understand. >https://reason.com/2014/04/06/otis-mcdonald-rip-the-man-who-got-the-se/ > >https://www.substancenews.net/articles.php?page=7976 > >https://www.britannica.com/event/McDonald-v-City-of-Chicago > >Or as some write, situations vary. As do humans and their >behavior within those situations. -- Cheers, John B.