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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 18:06:17 +0000 From: john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Small magnetic tunable filter for 6G and beyond Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 11:06:17 -0700 Message-ID: <4pi95jln0ibs3afptjm6gn319uh90ub6dn@4ax.com> References: <v314gp$ralt$1@solani.org> <r2g95j9peg89n6th8i9638hiqd7ntamp3m@4ax.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 46 X-Trace: sv3-iM5tc10bf7jU9oeWu8ePju8avz3sCVJwnqtA8A7Pf/9yuPWH2200NgTfZJfHC0/AK+pWHsyBxVnGweK!FY17LjrbZtxb60YQFZBRLfphSwpfNK8f5GjyUM3yzoBxbMRtUUfDsKBMhqHUn0lbZBPN/VcE1UYP!laS6bw== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3624 On Mon, 27 May 2024 13:27:02 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote: >On Mon, 27 May 2024 05:08:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >wrote: > >>To 6G and beyond: Engineers unlock the next generation of wireless communications: >> https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/05/240524114938.htm >>Source: >> University of Pennsylvania School of Engineering and Applied Science >>Summary: >> Engineers have developed a new tool that could unlock 6G and the next generation of wireless networks: an adjustable filter that can successfully prevent interference in high-frequency bands of the electromagnetic spectrum. >>partial quote: >> What makes the filter adjustable is a unique material, "yttrium iron garnet" (YIG), >> a blend of yttrium, a rare earth metal, along with iron and oxygen. >> "What's special about YIG is that it propagates a magnetic spin wave," says Olsson, >> referring to the type of wave created in magnetic materials when electrons spin in a synchronized fashion. >> When exposed to a magnetic field, the magnetic spin wave generated by YIG changes frequency. >> "By adjusting the magnetic field," says Xingyu Du, a doctoral student in Olsson's lab and the first author of the paper, >> "the YIG filter achieves continuous frequency tuning across an extremely broad frequency band." >> As a result, the new filter can be tuned to any frequency between 3.4 GHz and 11.1 GHz, >> which covers much of the new territory the FCC has opened up in the FR3 band. > >As with many breathless announcements of breakthroughs, this may not >fare well in reality, for all the reasons mentioned up thread. But >anyway, here is the full announcement: > >.<https://blog.seas.upenn.edu/to-6g-and-beyond-penn-engineers-unlock-the-next-generation-of-wireless-communications/> > >The item about LightSquared is amusingly off-mark: The problem with >LightSquared was that their proposed ground-based transmissions were >far too strong, and threatened to overwhelm existing GPS receivers, in >particular those in safety-of-flight involved GPS receivers. Inventing >a fancy new filter won't help any more than boring old filter >technologies, as it's the GPS receivers would need to be updated and >recertified, which is a very big deal. > >I haven't looked, but I bet there is an arXive paper on the yig filter >details. > >Joe Gwinn Does satellite nevigation need a low-Q tunable bandpass filter? There are great SAW-type resonators around with better filtering, no magnets required.