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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: I Salute the Democrat Party Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2025 04:00:58 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <4tfgrjdf7669fballc9l794usebd2eraf1@4ax.com> References: <vp8030$2vdgn$2@dont-email.me> <1740118332-1263@newsgrouper.org> <vp96j6$39d43$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2025 10:01:02 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c522e13f2e3ecc7fd34f3ad46835afbb"; logging-data="3502310"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/pr5bgR7aB0r0SpdjgBHRvMkESJHcfpIA=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:oGYP5wlvtZTomunaFgFBDX1IqKo= Bytes: 3099 On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 06:31:02 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >Ed Stasiak <user1263@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: > >>>BTR1701 > >>>You've become the party of big business > >>Indeed. > >How are steel and aluminum tariffs not going to raise the cost of >manufacturing of almost everything? How does the consumer benefit? Because it will bring steel production back to the USA. Admittedly it will take a few decades for that to happen and only if future Presidents continue the pain on the consumers. And only if steel/aluminum production is cheap enough in the future to keep costs down. So the idea is we have pain now and for the rest of our lifetime to hopefully (Fingers crossed) it will bring down costs and provide jobs in the future. The far future. >>If you listen to NPR, they pretty much daily harp on >>the horrors of tariffs and how average working class Americans >>are going to get raped at the grocery store, all because Trump >>isn't letting China flood the U.S. with their products (all the >>while China tariffs the shit out of imported American stuff). > >They've denied their own consumers the benefits of world trade. Not the >problem of the rest of the world. We provide tariffs on Chinese goods that we want to limit in this country like EVs. This is something that was happening before Trump. >>https://i.postimg.cc/Vv01p4LH/temp-Imageuk9-FBr.avif >>https://i.postimg.cc/HjGHg5rW/temp-Imagej9-Su-Zk.avif > >Why don't you demand a solution for bringing down domestic manufacturing >costs? The problem isn't isolating American consumers from world trade. >It's the sky high cost of land. > >Find a graph that makes this point, that land values began rising faster >than the rate of inflation starting in the late '70s/early '80s. You >think tariffs will solve the land problem, given that land values in >decent areas nearly doubled during COVID? Of akk people you think might >get this, it's Trump. Trump may actually get it, but why should he care? It doesn't impact him or his friends.