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From: mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1)
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Subject: Re: text in programming languages, Unicode in strings
Date: Mon, 20 May 2024 17:46:49 +0000
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Stephen Fuld wrote:

> MitchAlsup1 wrote:

>> John Levine wrote:
>> 
>> > According to Stephen Fuld <SFuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid>:
>> > > > That may have been the idea, but I think the idea was wrong. 
>> > > 
>> > > I think few would disagree with both parts of that.  I certainly
>> > > wouldn't.  But I give the designers some slack as, in the late
>> > > 1950s, there was lettle knowledge about programming languages to
>> > > go on.  Now, the mistake is obvious.
>> 
>> > COBOL is older than Fortran, and back in the day there were plenty
>> > of people who were outraged at I=I+1 which is mathematically absurd
>> > for the
>> > physicicts and mathematicians who were Fortran's early users.  
>> 
>> > Algol gave us various kinds of := which were supposed to be better.
>> 
>> > > Yes, the COMPUTE statement.  i.e. COMPUTE I = I + 1 
>> 
>> > You could do that, but I think this is at least as clear:
>> 
>> >     ADD 1 TO PRODUCT-INDEX.
>> 
>> > Don't forget that while COBOL's control structures were quite weak,
>> > its data structures still look pretty good.  Everything in a C or
>> > C++ structure comes from COBOL by way of PL/I.
>> 
>> 
>> Picture data structures ??


> I'm not sure what you are saying here. 


PICTURE x $999,999,999.00;

>                                        While Picture clauses are not
> in C nor C++, John never cleamed they were.  His clain was that those
> features that were included came from COBOL.  e.g. nested structs,
> array of structs, structs of arrays, etc.

> And I miss some equivalent of picture clauses in C every time I see,
> including in this NG, a number consisting of a string of say 8 or 9 or
> more digits without the every three digit separator character, which
> sure makes reading such numbers easier.  :-(