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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: patdolan@comcast.net (patdolan) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Interesting. ChatGPT fails defending starlight deflection when photons graze Sun's surface Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 22:20:48 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <50e95221946b7dc5e8e31d1c19dae7c2@www.novabbs.com> References: <9f729554aafb0be632aaeebd57833d95@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="199063"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="s0AH6jSOG5kIQX2VkggAl7kkh/xvyZcBddWSFk3DBJY"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: b929028e53217c5c01747851ab387c69034e7d52 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$PuPBAN2WJgecKs.CxJHN3O6j5YDm6a4B60dcxR8qxXrLpMYijBRc2 Wonderful scholarship, as always Richard. And a very entertaining read. The Einstein Field Equations are comically complicated and utterly unusable. Their closed form is printed on T-shirts, painted on the sides of academic buildings, printed atop textbook chapter headings, memorized and scrawled on classroom blackboards like a magical incantation or a Buddhist koan. But they are absolutely powerless to even compute the normal force that a bowl of soup exerts on my dinning room tabletop. Does Einstein try anywhere to explain the illicit double use of curved spacetime in his explanation of the 1.75" bending of starlight at the lim? To wit, he attributes 87.5" to Newtonian gravity (whose cause we are taught is spacetime curvature and already baked in to Newtonian gravity) and then he goes and attributes another 87.5" to spacetime curvature. So he is actually resorting to spacetime curvature twice. Even a high schooler would have had the common sense to unify the curvature of starlight into one agency, instead of two--one of which is derivative of the other. Silly.