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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: tomyee3@gmail.com (ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Relativity is a pseudoscience II. The Hafele-Keating HOAX, Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 13:22:40 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <51baed4e87578fc0ec65e6d4423a9b59@www.novabbs.com> References: <dad338831baa98f3eb1ca50452fd9401@www.novabbs.com> <be051db4136835108537c9497c5dfab8@www.novabbs.com> <e766d5b3f2f87f9604f0937ad65a4284@www.novabbs.com> <3fddf5a7bc291abaf2bc49d856d87fcb@www.novabbs.com> <45ca134f20b357d137e34b1fcdd80764@www.novabbs.com> <f4ec6c0220ab548a18740c2680d12dee@www.novabbs.com> <631323acf0c3dda0238e7c216ad843ab@www.novabbs.com> <8fe67191e5d71c706cc50c05e95ee23b@www.novabbs.com> <67bd6e19bb1d0337420a99583f647508@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2648583"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="ovbq/l84ala/wLhXSqScU9GOSIzjukMrxJB27Aq7eyg"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: c1a997029c70f718720f72156b7d7f56416caf7c X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$Uz5hUxEtSmcqJQ/zWmgNtOXZMn4dgSlG8lJOnReYgRwCwk7.XJ.6y X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3190 Lines: 36 On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 8:09:36 +0000, ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 5:41:58 +0000, rhertz wrote: > >> Now you have 12 atomic clocks involved. > > There were 4 traveling clocks, identified by serial number in > Fig. 1 of H&K's results paper: 361, 408, 447 and 120. > > From Fig 1, it should be obvious that while on the ground at > home, they continuously compared the clocks against USNO time > (as well as against each other). While in the air and during > short layovers in different cities of the world, they could > not compare against USNO, but they did continue the regular > inter-comparisons of the clocks against each other. > > Most of what you have written about how you believe H&K > collected their data is sheer fantasy. ====================================================================== Page 170: "We recorded the differences in the times indicated by each member of the flying ensemble at regular intervals before, during, and after each trip, that is, thoughout the entire data period. An analysis of these data revealed the times and magnitudes for correlated changes during each trip." Please reread the first paragraph on page 170 which starts, "A hypothetical example may help to follow the logic of this method." If you didn't follow my earlier description of correlated rate-change analysis, perhaps their detailed description will help. "Therefore, time intercomparison data for an ensemble of three or more clocks permit reconstruction of their rate change behavior relative to MEAN(USNO) without actual comparisons with MEAN(USNO), and the greater the number of clocks in the ensemble, the more redundant and self- consistent the procedure becomes." ======================================================================