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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Everyone on this forum besides Keith has been a damned liar about this point Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 15:04:44 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <51f89756afe55be803998d173bbdedd7f1f3c3cd@i2pn2.org> References: <1025i6j$afk6$1@dont-email.me> <b6221b91da87b035b8621079cee4cf6a4dc4abe6@i2pn2.org> <1026s46$j3rp$4@dont-email.me> <10296qc$17rpl$1@dont-email.me> <1029le9$1ah2f$7@dont-email.me> <102bep1$1sc5m$1@dont-email.me> <102c2qk$20jl4$6@dont-email.me> <cda8cdbea5e056c8ea6fee4a6934572685512d19@i2pn2.org> <102c5l3$21qj7$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 15:04:44 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="45607"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Am Wed, 11 Jun 2025 09:59:46 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 6/11/2025 9:42 AM, joes wrote: >> Am Wed, 11 Jun 2025 09:11:32 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>> On 6/11/2025 3:29 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2025-06-10 16:10:49 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> On 6/10/2025 7:01 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-06-09 14:46:30 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>> I am no so stupid that I require a complete simulation of a >>>>>>> non-terminating input. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes you are. You just express your stupidity in another way. >>>>>> >>>>> It only takes two simulations of DDD by HHH for HHH to correctly >>>>> recognize a non-halting behavior pattern. >>>> >>>> Either the pattern or the recognition is incorrect. >>> >>> DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own "return" >>> statement final halt state. This by itself *is* complete proof that >>> the input to HHH(DDD) specifies non-halting behavior. >> >> It is also proof that HHH doesn't terminate. >> > The fact that HHH reaches its own "return" statement final halt state > proves that you are incorrect. Not when simulated. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.