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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 19:05:04 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <521668acd2ed6184f2f2e36f67fdb1bc3a997524@i2pn2.org> References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <0e67005f-120e-4b3b-a4d2-ec4bbc1c5662@att.net> <vgab11$st52$3@dont-email.me> <ecffc7c0-05a2-42df-bf4c-8ae3c2f809d6@att.net> <vgb0ep$11df5$4@dont-email.me> <35794ceb-825a-45df-a55b-0a879cfe80ae@att.net> <vgfgpo$22pcv$1@dont-email.me> <40ac3ed2-5648-48c0-ac8f-61bdfd1c1e20@att.net> <vgg57o$25ovs$2@dont-email.me> <71fea361-0069-4a98-89a4-6de2eef62c5e@att.net> <vggh9v$27rg8$3@dont-email.me> <ff2c4d7c-33b4-4aad-a6b2-88799097b86b@att.net> <vghuoc$2j3sg$1@dont-email.me> <d79e791d-d670-4a5a-bd26-fdf72bcde6bc@att.net> <vgj4lk$2ova9$3@dont-email.me> <f154138e-4482-4267-9332-151e2fd9f1ba@att.net> <vgkoi7$b5pp$1@solani.org> <d780ead415ff3a62ccd9b606bcd743fea3d8002c@i2pn2.org> <vglf32$396r8$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 19:05:04 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1499673"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3211 Lines: 30 Am Fri, 08 Nov 2024 17:43:15 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 08.11.2024 13:28, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 11/8/24 5:18 AM, WM wrote: > >>> My understanding of mathematics and geometry is that reordering cannot >>> increase the measure (only reduce it by overlapping). This is a basic >>> axiom which will certainly be agreed to by everybody not conditioned >>> by matheology. But there is also an analytical proof: Every reordering >>> of any finite set of intervals does not increase their measure. The >>> limit of a constant sequence is this constant however. >>> This geometrical consequence of Cantor's theory has, to my knowledge, >>> never been discussed. By the way I got the idea after a posting of >>> yours: Each of {...,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,...} is the midpoint of an >>> interval. >> which makes the error that the properties of finite objects apply to >> the infinite objects, which isn't true, and what just breaks your >> logic. > The infinite of the real axis is a big supply but an as big drain. >> >> You take it as a given, but that just means that your logic is unable >> to actually handle the infinite. > I take it as evident that intervals of the measure 1/5 of the positive > real axis will not, by any shuffling, cover the real axis completely, > let alone infinitely often. I think who believes this is a deplorable > fanatic if not a fool. What is the measure you are using and what does it give for the real axis? -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.