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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Privilege Levels Below User Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2024 21:20:45 +0000 Organization: Rocksolid Light Message-ID: <54a0686c6805dbc7ce10973021847408@www.novabbs.org> References: <jai66jd4ih4ejmek0abnl4gvg5td4obsqg@4ax.com> <h0ib6j576v8o37qu1ojrsmeb5o88f29upe@4ax.com> <2024Jun9.185245@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <38ob6jl9sl3ceb0qugaf26cbv8lk7hmdil@4ax.com> <2024Jun10.091648@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <o32f6jlq2qpi9s1u8giq521vv40uqrkiod@4ax.com> <lcq749F7sotU1@mid.individual.net> <9b9h6jtuengblsscovsh7qc652lmao4vt8@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3900611"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="65wTazMNTleAJDh/pRqmKE7ADni/0wesT78+pyiDW8A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: ac58ceb75ea22753186dae54d967fed894c3dce8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$GirgbMK1yIymAgyZOzief.isyvXgykbosrTEd5CzECMjGvzemsLH2 Bytes: 2039 Lines: 20 John Savard wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 08:54:16 +0300, Niklas Holsti > <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> wrote: >>Not always. If the mistakenly speculated cache-fetch /evicted/ some >>other data from the (finite-sized) cache, and the evicted data are >>needed later on the /true/ execution path, the mistakenly speculated >>fetch has a /negative/ effect on performance. (This kind of "timing >>anomaly" is very bothersome in static WCET analysis.) That is why you don't update the cache until the causing instruction retires. > Ouch. Another argument for having a victim cache. And a benefit of > doing it in what is apparently Mitch Alsup's way - holding off cache > updates until instruction retirement. Change your thought from victim cache to pipeline buffer pre cache. > John Savard