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Subject: Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly
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Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 21:39:07 -0000 (UTC)
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Am Tue, 13 May 2025 16:30:20 -0500 schrieb olcott:
> On 5/13/2025 6:43 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 5/13/25 12:52 AM, olcott wrote:

>>> It is truism that simulating termination analyzers must report on the
>>> behavior of their input as if they themselves never aborted this
>>> simulation:
>> 
>> Right, of the input actually given to them, which must include all
>> their code, and that code is what is actually there, not created by
>> this imaginary operation.
>> 
> In other words every single byte of HHH and DD are 100% totally
> identical except the hypothetical HHH has its abort code commented out.
....the simulating HHH, but not the simulatED one.

>> But you aren't simulating the same PROGRAM D that the original was
>> given.
>> 
> It is not supposed to be the same program. *simulated D would never stop
> running* refers to a different HHH/DD pair
Uh yes it is supposed to be the same actual input. The *simulator* is 
hypothetical.

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