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Path: ...!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 17:18:32 +0000 Subject: Re: The Schwarzschild Metric has been refuted. Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <c5b55811f1d9185c218d02d03bc8e44b@www.novabbs.com> <8ea3ce221fabb79b4549bca9ff6d787e@www.novabbs.com> <vuj8n9$2v3o2$1@dont-email.me> <0dacad67d4070ef5e1bbb117a61fc469@www.novabbs.com> <vul77n$opm2$1@dont-email.me> <c70bd89809c8fefdf5e8db1265630a89@www.novabbs.com> <vuntpk$390tu$1@dont-email.me> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 10:18:32 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <vuntpk$390tu$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <5F6dnR4J6__1JZL1nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com> Lines: 79 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-N8QKjdj+vXSpKTzmSHT+Kn1nD/TNa7BHxdxehajhFJFyVElzUHDV0vBHhwtHh2qGQRoUsfquL1IrlkV!NEeN4aX9HAUnnqiZShnsEsOHm4mTysjbIBalc6qXkvqTCwoAYFuh+v7+q/PlVukS3TIdXK9C1FA= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4449 On 04/28/2025 05:59 AM, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: > Den 27.04.2025 21:40, skrev Laurence Clark Crossen: >> >> Mei has shown that the Schwarzschild metric implicitly has the starlight >> going through the Sun. You have not demonstrated otherwise, > > Let's analyse what Mei has shown: > > https://article.scirea.org/pdf/14417.pdf > > I quote from the introduction: > "The calculations of general relativity assumed that the light > passes across the solar surface, which was equivalent to assume > that the solar radius was a root of the cubic equation. It is > proved in this paper that the solar radius can not be the orbital > poles of light. The orbital poles of light were located in the solar > interior not far from the solar center. > > This is almost correct! > > For a star to be blocked by the Sun the star must > be in the ecliptic plane. The Earth is orbiting > the Earth at 1 AU, so when the Earth is at > a straight line from the star through the centre of > the Sun, the star will be behind the Sun. > (The angle star-Sun observed from the Earth = 0⁰) > > It is then easy to calculate that if the light should > be bent around the Sun and be visible from the Earth, > the deflection angle would have to be: > R/AU radians = 0.266696⁰. > But the deflection is only 1.75" = 0.000486⁰ > So the star is blocked by the Sun. > > This is what Mei correctly discovered. > -------------------------------------- > > φ = angle star-Sun as observed from the Earth > > Mei's blunder is that he claims that GR predicts > that the deflection is 1.75" when φ = 0⁰. > That is obviously not the case. > It is easy to calculate that the star will be visible > when φ < -R/AU rad + 1.75" = -0.2662⁰ > and when φ > R/AU rad - 1.75" = 0.2662⁰ > It will blocked by the Sun when -0.2662⁰ < φ < 0.2662⁰ > When φ = ±0.2662⁰ then the light from the star that reaches > the Earth will graze the Sun. > > In the post you responded to, I wrote: > > φ = 0.266⁰ (light grazing the sun) > ----------------------------------- > Newton: θ = 0.876078" > GR: θ = 1.752156" > > > Mei's gigantic blunder is that when a star in the ecliptic > plane is blocked by the Sun, then: > "the light from stars in outer space would be lost in the solar > interior and could not be observed by the observers on the earth. > The night sky on the earth would be starless." > > Mei's confusion is so gigantic that the whole paper > is meaningless drivel even if it may contain some correct math. > Arago arrived at the Arago spot from carrying some equations of Fresnel about and around the surface to show that an occluding body's shadow has a spot of light in it. So, light as simply following the geodesy doesn't say anything about that, yet, it's definitely a thing. Then, "Fresnel large-lensing", as it were, is a thing. (And, obviously corpuscular theories of light are falsified.)