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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 21:14:42 +0000 Subject: Re: No true relativist! Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <89ea9e0a4ddc271a7bc16200c6a5dbb4@www.novabbs.com> <QyIXO.812445$f3ea.55517@fx09.ams4> <irScnSMnU7nFBrL6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2024 13:14:42 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <irScnSMnU7nFBrL6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <5LadnUgJXa5fTbL6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 59 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-huF1aEVSDVEGH5GzDnA4s+Q/hKvHsb88lYsaWC4Xt584/2siNzaiw/bMpZ7l8Y9sBIfVk+X7x73VLRj!mtNLI1YY/rWpUnCKq5QT19/muW51VcyhATcD58s3SY/lC/5kqUlR82qe/9ye3DEhrnFta2XMZCBB X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3680 On 11/09/2024 09:26 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 11/09/2024 04:27 AM, Paul B. Andersen wrote: >> Den 09.11.2024 05:43, skrev LaurenceClarkCrossen: >>> No true space is flat according to relativity. >>> >> >> No water surface is flat according to Newton. >> > > According to Poincare, there's a notion of the > plane, that is rough, instead of smooth, that > the Euclidean smooth plane and Poincare rough plane, > make for that the notions like the zollfrei metric, > or any other sort "continuous manifold" makes it > so that the many-fold, surface, makes for that > the plain geometry the plane geometry is as well > a continuous: manifold, as then usually in the > theory is according to a space-time a Space-Time > the vector fields associated with the space field > their contents with as well the contradistinction > and juxtaposition the Euclidean smooth plane, > and Poincare rough plane. > > In mathematics then this is usually with regards > to the "continuous and differentiable", with regards > to the non-differentiable, everywhere, which makes > for a reasoning that of course the Laplacian that > most usual reasoning about the quadratic and partials, > and also harmonic theory with regards to Chladni functions, > that the Laplacians are at best partial, and that the > analysis situs makes for that both the integral analysis > and the differential analysis are required for a > better mathematics what may suffice. > > The meniscus and the difference in fluid models > between skin effect of electricity and core effect > of liquids, has that water is merely an extreme > of sorts among properties of liquids their surface > tensions, and that of course some liquids have > no meniscus and are thusly of course flat. > Of course it's pretty easy to come up with mathematical propositions that result in terms of motion that there's no _nothing_ and that it takes a great wider and fuller dialectic with more and better mathematics of infinities and infinitesimals with the law(s), plural, of large numbers, to explain convergence and mergence, and statistical expectations and uncertainty, and bunch of other things starting with Zeno and Aristotle. Anyways according to the latest purposed experiments, space-time is more-than-less flat, and, the cosmological constant, is: a mathematical non-zero infinitesimal. Signed, Science