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On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 19:51:52 -0600, "Jay E. Morris"
<morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:

>On 11/11/2024 6:42 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 11/11/2024 6:36 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>> On 11/11/2024 5:20 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 11/9/2024 8:06 PM, Jay E. Morris wrote:
>>>>> On 11/9/2024 3:11 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>> Dude, JD Vance was a Marine Corps officer, not Army.=A0 And his=20
>>>>>> grandfather just lived down the street during his childhood with=20
>>>>>> extensive contact.
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD_Vance
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Vance is the VP Elect.=A0 He will be sworn in on Jan 20, 2025.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>
>>>>> To slightly correct the correction, he was a non-commissioned=20
>>>>> office, a corporal.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, a corporal in the US Marine Corps is equivalent to a sergeant =
in=20
>>>> the US Army.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, not.
>>>
>>> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
Marines=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Army
>>> E-1=A0 =
Private=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
Private
>>> E-2=A0 Private First Class=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Private
>>> E-3=A0 Lance Corporal=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Private =
=46irst Class
>>> E-4=A0 =
Corporal=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
Corporal (or Specialist 4, Non-NCO)
>>> E-5=A0 =
Sergeant=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =
Sergeant
>>> E-6=A0 Staff Sergeant=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Staff =
Sergeant
>>> E-7=A0 Gunnery Sergeant=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Sergeant =
First Class
>>> E-8=A0 Master Sergeant=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Master =
Sergeant
>>> E-9=A0 Master Gunnery Sergeant=A0=A0=A0=A0 Sergeant Major
>>>
>>> Note, E-8 in both when the senior NCO in a company are First =
Sergeant,=20
>>> E-9 when senior NCO in a battalion are Sergeant Major in Marines and=20
>>> Command Sergeant Major in the Army.
>>=20
>> Sorry, going with my son who spent 8 years in the USMC and got out as =
a=20
>> Corporal.
>>=20
>> Lynn
>>=20
>
>Not unusual for troops not to know unless a person has interaction with=20
>other services. While in did a little training with Marines and their=20
>ranks are close enough to Army that it was easy to learn. 20 years as=20
>contractor with the Air Force and I still occasionally screwed up the=20
>senior ranks. Navy? Forget it.

Or they fell asleep during that class in Basic.

Which included Naval ranks, BTW.

Of course, when I say "Basic" I am talking about Army BCT in 1969. Who
can say what they teach 'em now?
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"