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Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!news.neodome.net!news.samoylyk.net!news.hispagatos.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Interesting. ChatGPT fails defending starlight deflection when photons graze Sun's surface Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 21:46:00 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <5a42c06d9d8c648b549334970dc6bca4@www.novabbs.com> References: <9f729554aafb0be632aaeebd57833d95@www.novabbs.com> <9657386124cca2fe6f147aa37dfdd1e4@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary="------------678acf9706cd05.02729101" Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="4080289"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="OjDMvaaXMeeN/7kNOPQl+dWI+zbnIp3mGAHMVhZ2e/A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$heL/oxceRUvFG/1AJ.qg6uV9eeASey3It3JqcKCjvMxcAZTUnIj/i X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: 26080b4f8b9f153eb24ebbc1b47c4c36ee247939 Bytes: 109621 Lines: 1791 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------678acf9706cd05.02729101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 17 Jan 2025 19:39:59 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote: <snip> > According to Einstein's 1915 explanation, doubling involves more > deflection before and after the closest approach of the wavefront to the > Sun instead of at its closest approach as with Newtonian gravity. - > https://www.mathpages.com/rr/s8-09/8-09.htm = "Doubling the Deflection" This article EXACTLY follows what I've been posting for years, based on the equation 7c of his 1915 paper on Mercury's phenomena: THAT "HIS CALCULATIONS" for doubling the 1911 value for starlight deflection, when razing the Sun's surface IMPLIES A VARIABLE SPEED OF LIGHT: 1) Light speed DECREASES FROM its nominal value c when approaching the Sun. 2) Light speed INCREASES TO its nominal value c when going away from the Sun. 3) Light HAS MASS. EXCERPT: ---------------------------------------------------------------- "Therefore, the speed of light (along this path) is actually given, to the first order in the small quantities m/r, by the expression c(t) = 1 - m/r (1 + x^2/r^2) ---------------------------------------------------------------- The above equation is in geometrical units: c = G = 1. Now compare with equation 7c: Φ(r) = -α/2 (1 + B^2/r^2) ; Equation 7c from Mercury's paper. α = 2GM/(rc^2) in physical units In physical units, Eq 7c is Φ(r) = - GMm/r [1 + B^2/(mcr)^2] B = mr^2ω, the constant angular momentum, under Newton's Law of Gravitation. Making r.ω = c at the perigee of the trajectory, at which the test particle has maximum speed, gives (1 + r_Sun^2 ω^2/c^2) = (1 + 1) = 2, which doubles the 1911 value. At r = R_Sun, c = R_Sun.ω, which is THE LOWER VALUE OF c on the trajectory of starlight. Then, c decreases approaching the Sun, to later increase to the nominal value c_0. It implies a variable speed of light, besides ACCEPTING that "photons" have mass and suffer gravitational attraction. Huygens or not involved here, IT PROVES THAT GR IS BASED ON A VARIABLE SPEED OF LIGHT when it passes by gravitational masses of celestial bodies. DISCLAIMER: I don't believe that the above is true. I'm just analyzing the CRAP that general relativity contains. For me, c IS CONSTANT, and the phenomena of deflection is due to REFRACTION. 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