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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Hypothetical possibilities --- Complete Proof *FAILS* Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 10:41:53 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <5af02c802de6099c2f620e2f36efd771bd2588b5@i2pn2.org> References: <v7gl30$3j9fi$1@dont-email.me> <v7led6$kacj$1@dont-email.me> <v7lsg5$luh0$5@dont-email.me> <v7nm9m$1433k$1@dont-email.me> <v7ofe7$17h8r$6@dont-email.me> <v7qfu0$1m6vf$1@dont-email.me> <v7r040$1onhe$3@dont-email.me> <v7vlbj$2ofet$1@dont-email.me> <v80a2u$2rabc$4@dont-email.me> <v825jo$39i9l$1@dont-email.me> <v82u9d$3dftr$3@dont-email.me> <v8306v$3c7$1@news.muc.de> <v83161$3dftr$11@dont-email.me> <v84udt$3rp4t$1@dont-email.me> <v8bc6j$159av$1@dont-email.me> <ea673a5b4ed43fbddf938c69bd013b0cf2ca325d@i2pn2.org> <v8c6kb$1de3l$1@dont-email.me> <9f3112e056ad6eebf35f940c34b802b46addcad4@i2pn2.org> <v8cde0$1ecgo$1@dont-email.me> <v8ctgt$1gbu7$4@dont-email.me> <v8dkc3$1kii7$3@dont-email.me> <v8e55v$1nrnh$1@dont-email.me> <v8e9vu$1oqd7$1@dont-email.me> <v8fftq$22ege$3@dont-email.me> <v8fuj5$24rl1$10@dont-email.me> <v8g1j7$24u77$6@dont-email.me> <v8g2jl$26d7d$1@dont-email.me> <v8ibf5$2p7ho$1@dont-email.me> <v8ieu0$2pju7$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2024 14:41:53 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1215790"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: <v8ieu0$2pju7$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 4739 Lines: 70 On 8/2/24 7:11 AM, olcott wrote: > On 8/2/2024 5:12 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-08-01 13:29:24 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> *Here is the full trace where nothing is hidden* >>> https://liarparadox.org/HHH(DDD)_Full_Trace.pdf >> >> On page 36 of that "trace" >> [0000128c][0010379f][00000018] e8e6f4ffff call 00000777 >> is not followed by the trace of 00000777. Instead the trace continues >> with the next instruction after the return without any comment about >> the omission. Meaning of 00000777 is not told. >> > > The bottom line has always been (for three years now) that the > fact that the next lines of DDD, (and DD) have always been the > next lines that a correct x86 emulator would correctly emulate > proves that HHH (and HH) did emulate these lines correctly > *EVEN IF IT DID THIS BY WILD GUESS* NOPE. It is not nomatter how much you want to try to claim it. Your failure to show how that is true from any reference source just proves that this is just another of your multitude of lies that make you logic system just w worthless jumble of words. > > Because of this all of the requests for a full execution trace > have never been more than sadistic trollish head games. No, it has been an attempt to get you to see the actual truth, but your stuburnly cling to your lies. > > _DDD() > [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping > [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping > [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD > [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) > [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 > [00002182] 5d pop ebp > [00002183] c3 ret > Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] > > Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation Execution Trace Stored at:1138cc > [00002172][001138bc][001138c0] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping > [00002173][001138bc][001138c0] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping > [00002175][001138b8][00002172] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD > [0000217a][001138b4][0000217f] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) > > *The above match DDD thus proving that they were emulated correctly* > *The below match DDD thus proving that they were emulated correctly* But the following is not, since that isn't what the call 000015d2 instruction actually does, Thus, your claim is based on your lies. > > New slave_stack at:14e2ec > [00002172][0015e2e4][0015e2e8] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping > [00002173][0015e2e4][0015e2e8] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping > [00002175][0015e2e0][00002172] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD > [0000217a][0015e2dc][0000217f] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) > Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped > > > >