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From: joes <noreply@example.org>
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Subject: Re: ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:46:09 -0000 (UTC)
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Am Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:38:00 -0500 schrieb olcott:
> On 10/14/2024 6:21 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 10/14/24 5:49 AM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 10/14/2024 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2024-10-13 12:53:12 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>
>>>>> Although it is possible for LLM systems to lie:
>>>>> ChatGPT does correctly apply truth preserving operations to the
>>>>> premises that it was provided regarding the behavior of DDD and HHH.
>>>>> *Try to find a mistake in its reasoning*
>>>> No reasoning shown.
>>> https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e
>>> When you click on the link and try to explain how HHH must be wrong
>>> when it reports that DDD does not terminate because DDD does terminate
>>> it will explain your mistake to you.
>> No, it admits that DDD does halt, but that HHH must be correct to say
>> it doesn't, ... because of the lies you told it.
> It proves that it has a much deeper understanding than anything that I
> told it.

>> Its reasoning is based on the incorrect presumption that the HHH that
>> DDD calls is not part of the program DDD,
> (1) DDD never has been a program it is a C function.
> (2) HHH does correctly emulated itself emulating DDD
>      this <is> a contiguous sequence of computation.
A program is a C function called from main(). This corresponds to the
behaviour of the actual execution.

>> because you have broken the definition of a program.
> I am not the one saying that a C function <is> a program.
> You should not be so sloppy in your use of terminology.
> DDD emulated by HHH including HHH emulating itself emulating DDD is a
> contiguous sequence of computation.
> It is not and never has been a program. I think of DDD and HHH as
> virtual machines.
-- 
Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.