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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: ChatGPT refutes the key rebuttal of my work Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:46:09 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <5bc45ae497492c41ebc451ff0dd9231ad0912f76@i2pn2.org> References: <vegfro$lk27$9@dont-email.me> <veimqs$14que$1@dont-email.me> <veipf3$15764$1@dont-email.me> <4f01f13c1e0c8773c52d4ec0aa398d01ca5f43f8@i2pn2.org> <vejdso$1879f$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:46:09 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1993196"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2900 Lines: 37 Am Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:38:00 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 10/14/2024 6:21 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 10/14/24 5:49 AM, olcott wrote: >>> On 10/14/2024 4:04 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2024-10-13 12:53:12 +0000, olcott said: >>>> >>>>> Although it is possible for LLM systems to lie: >>>>> ChatGPT does correctly apply truth preserving operations to the >>>>> premises that it was provided regarding the behavior of DDD and HHH. >>>>> *Try to find a mistake in its reasoning* >>>> No reasoning shown. >>> https://chatgpt.com/share/6709e046-4794-8011-98b7-27066fb49f3e >>> When you click on the link and try to explain how HHH must be wrong >>> when it reports that DDD does not terminate because DDD does terminate >>> it will explain your mistake to you. >> No, it admits that DDD does halt, but that HHH must be correct to say >> it doesn't, ... because of the lies you told it. > It proves that it has a much deeper understanding than anything that I > told it. >> Its reasoning is based on the incorrect presumption that the HHH that >> DDD calls is not part of the program DDD, > (1) DDD never has been a program it is a C function. > (2) HHH does correctly emulated itself emulating DDD > this <is> a contiguous sequence of computation. A program is a C function called from main(). This corresponds to the behaviour of the actual execution. >> because you have broken the definition of a program. > I am not the one saying that a C function <is> a program. > You should not be so sloppy in your use of terminology. > DDD emulated by HHH including HHH emulating itself emulating DDD is a > contiguous sequence of computation. > It is not and never has been a program. I think of DDD and HHH as > virtual machines. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.