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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT genetics Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 07:40:48 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 146 Message-ID: <5nr8kjdkq5c3ku3bs25mhvgkq2ktk765j7@4ax.com> References: <prgvjj94dvn6t130qt6aupkr9ue9p130mv@4ax.com> <ji11kjtl7e3udo745qlrfi5m0i84fj45ct@4ax.com> <q681kjdirnfilb14t6ql3622fd5r1pubqq@4ax.com> <qiq3kjll27465dihfokkn83dcvn6e84222@4ax.com> <2cc4kjddkseq6r5kskr40gn9d1bv1uvaiq@4ax.com> <oe66kjls1ai1p7eurn49oq2v7f4ab9eh1h@4ax.com> <9ai6kjh15kk6rt9b2d65m4qcofvdkjrpuq@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 13:38:26 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2d6d635e072e3fb9ba7f3a5ddf5cce7e"; logging-data="2920264"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/JznKfN2Xg/DztDeG1GB7r" Cancel-Lock: sha1:coBgrX1yXRfPb2q7sQZgTeGbYgA= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Bytes: 6642 On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 07:46:32 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote: >On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 07:38:12 -0500, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote: > >>On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:55:46 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:36:50 -0500, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 07:22:03 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 08:26:17 -0500, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 15:40:41 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>I was observing that some people can't stand mayonnaise (I like it) >>>>>>>and some people hate cilantro (I detest it. I carry tweezers to pick >>>>>>>small bits out of my Mexican food.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>One of my guys is the opposite, hates mayo and loves cilantro. He >>>>>>>suggested that there may be a one common gene for both cases. >>>>>> >>>>>>OT? Is it EVER! >>>>>> >>>>>>RL >>>>> >>>>>Design any cool electronics lately? >>>>> >>>>>I'm doing power dummy loads that simulate impedances, but I can't >>>>>discuss that in detail. >>>> >>>>The only kind of 'load' that's 'cool' is one that recovers >>>>energy to the source. Loads that are cheap, disposable and >>>>commonly used will be thrown together from off the shelf >>>>crap drawing on HVAC catalog parts and operated by meat >>>>puppets on the production floor, long after the 'designer' >>>>blows his head off in an off-season motel room. >>> >>>Yes, an inductive or capacitive load has to at least pretend to return >>>energy it got from the customer. A good inductor simulator has to do >>>that, and tolerate bipolar PWM inputs, and behave like a real inductor >>>to diode or zener clamped flybacks. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>You may not have noticed it, with your mouth on the govt. >>>>military tit >>> >>>Don't be a jerk. All sorts of people buy our stuff. >>> >>When I think about it, there weren't many projects I >>worked on after 1909 that didn't involve government >>money. That at least covered my hours - a lot of >>record keeping under a program with an acronym, >>as I recall ~ SRED. >> >>Don't know that customers for the final product had >>any similar advantage. Careful separation of 'research' >>from (gasp) manufacturing. >> >> >>> >>>, but light mfring in North America has been in >>>>the toilet for >30 yrs. New product development followed >>>>mfring, off-shore; their domestic hulks stripped for assets >>>>and property values by pointy heads that, having got the >>>>value out and loaned it back to us, three times over, are >>>>playing Barbie with the political body. >>>> >>>>I suppose there's at least some compensation; that you can >>>>keep your kids and a few grads employed in your dotage. >>> >>>Jerk. >>> >>Sorry. I try to keep my mouth shut most of the time, but it >>was failing to maneuver transformation into an 'employer' >>role some years ago that really pointed out the generational >>differences showing up in the industry. >> >>I envy anypne who managed it. Driving a single desk/bench >>is kid's stuff. >>>> >>>>If the chinese are going to make it, then that's where the >>>>new designs should be going, so we don't end up buried in >>>>electronic kibble. You can put 300% tarrifs on chinese >>>>stuff and the ticket value will still be half that of >>>>local produce. >>>> >>>>We all spin our own legends, to some extent. Having no >>>>access to silicon fab, I've pretty much given up on >>>>normally-off self-driven synchronous rectifiers. >>>>There's always something that needs fixing around the >>>>neighborhood, or somebody building stuff around second- >>>>hand chinese batteries. >>>> >>>>Lately I've been working on a digital version of a vanity >>>>publication (Y2K) covering cooperative beekeeping and >>>>honey marketing organization/development in the '30s and >>>>'40s. Cooperatives tend to get targeted by 'free enterprise' >>>>money - few have survived. In the 30's, there were gov't. >>>>departments (2-man) who's job it was to assist in their >>>>development, as the then-current system was basically >>>>beating primary producers to death. >>>> >>>>Perhaps similar thinking could be applied to secondary >>>>industries. >>>> >>>>Beekeeping itself is facing major threats from many different >>>>directions these days, none of which are relevant in SED. >>>> >>>>Genetically determined preference for mayonaise? Give us >>>>a break. >>>> >>>>RL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Waning traffic on this forum simply reflects that lack of >>>>involvement. >>> >>>And of civility. Hint hint. >> >>Holding hands under the moon in June never got product >>out the door on time and under budget. >> >>RL > >Being stubborn, needing to be right, refusing to change course, >rejecting unorthodox ideas, always believing data sheets, all wreck >designs. > >There is at least a 5:1 ratio in productivity between good design >groups and pathological ones, and most are pathological. I judge only by delivery on time, to spec. Has to be coordinated with production and test capability. Sales? You've got no control over that.It's where I found the most pathology, mainly because of a rift between the guys who formulated the spec and the guys who ended up having to flog the stuff - usually in the same dept. RL