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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Let's hide the bicyclists behind parked cars. What could go wrong?
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 10:02:12 +0700
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On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 18:27:09 +0100, Wolfgang Strobl
<news51@mystrobl.de> wrote:

>Am Mon, 13 Jan 2025 11:24:29 -0500 schrieb Frank Krygowski
><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>:
>
>>"Traffic traveling as much as 90 kph" is usually much less problem for 
>>me than John pretends, in part because most of the roads I ride have 
>>slower speeds, chosen because of aesthetics. Less traffic and less road 
>>noise is more pleasant.
>
>Exactly.  An quite a lot of roads with no limit (meaning limited to 100
>km/h outside of highways) are wide enough or have little traffic, so
>that overtaking slower vehicles is not much of a problem.  I a driver is
>able to overtake another that only drives at 80 km/h, he or she is
>certailny able to overtake a cyclist doing 30 km/h only. Most probably,
>the latter is much easier to do, for obvious reasons.
>
>>
>>And even those with 55 mph cars seldom have continuous platoons. One or 
>>two motorists at a time are easy to deal with. In either case, when 
>>motorists see me at lane center, they seem to realize right away that 
>>they will have to adjust their speed, their lane choice or whatever. 
>>It's rare to even get a horn honk.
>
>Time to show this short video again
><https://www.mystrobl.de/ws/pic/20210710/L113.mp4> 
>We have used that road quite often, because it is the best connection to
>get out of the larger Rhine valley and into the low mountain range
>called "Eifel".  Narrower roads, especially those with a sidepath are
>both more unpleasant and more risky. Motorists can sniff "bicycle
>infrastructure" even when there isn't any. Any rotten footpath is good
>enough. :-(


Now try some of the roads here :-)
https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/1762349/understanding-bangkoks-traffic-woes
-- 
Cheers,

John B.