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From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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On 2025-01-05 20:56, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2025, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-01-04 16:58, TJ wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-03 20:57, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 03/01/2025 18:37, -hh wrote:
>>>>> On 1/3/25 11:43 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/01/2025 16:31, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse 
>>>>>>> code:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03/01/2025 13:32, -hh wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> I don't know much about sea level changes. I live about 250 miles 
>>> from the sea, so I don't have to deal with it. But that doesn't mean 
>>> I can deny the changes in the climate right here where I live.
>>>
>>> I'm a farmer, the third generation of my family to own and operate 
>>> this small chunk of the world. Among other crops, we have raised 
>>> vegetables and sold them on a roadside farm stand since 1962. We have 
>>> records going back most of that time, with small notes about things 
>>> like the weather.
>>>
>>> 50 years ago, while there were exceptions (there are ALWAYS 
>>> exceptions when taking about weather trends), we could pretty much 
>>> count on the first killing frost happening between September 20 and 
>>> the 25th.
>>>
>>> The last 10 years or so, that event has moved to October 5-10. And in 
>>> 2024, the first killing frost was on October 25th.
>>>
>>> So the climate IS changing. I've watched it do so. But is it natural, 
>>> or man-made? In my layman's opinion, it's probably both. The basic 
>>> mechanism is probably natural, augmented by Man's contribution.
>>>
>>> But what can we do about it? Little of any significance, unless we 
>>> are willing to take drastic measures - kill off about half the human 
>>> population, give up modern power-hungry technology, that sort of thing.
>>
>> Same way we changed it, we can change it back. We'll die if we don't.
>>
>>>
>>> I'm not willing to do that, and I don't think anyone else is, either. 
>>> So what I'll do is continue to take advantage of the changes that are 
>>> happening, adapting as best I can.
>>>
>>> I can now grow fruits and vegetables that I couldn't dream of 50 
>>> years ago. Better, long-season varieties that I couldn't grow when I 
>>> was a kid. For now, the climate is changing toward being better, 
>>> here. That won't last, but it'll probably last longer than I do.
>>
>> You are fortunate. In my area, the climate has gone desert like and 
>> crops die because there is not enough water. The increased energy in 
>> the system means storms are stronger, even devastating. They often 
>> destroy crops.
> 
> The sad thing is that you are surrounded by water on 3 sides, yet insist 
> on not building out enormous deslination plants powered by solar that 
> would solve all problems. 

Where do you get that idea? A lot of the water in my area comes from 
desalinization.

> Another fix would be to fix water leakage in 
> southern spain. I've heard that 40% of the water is wasted in leaks in 
> the system.

That is in some cities. The average is 15%.

<https://theobjective.com/espana/2023-08-12/perdida-agua-averias-fugas-comunidades/>

> A third story I heard, was that Franco was well aware of 
> potential water shortage and have plans to build out dams and 
> irrigation. Sadly when socialists came to power and Franco died, all 
> this was forgotten.

No, it wasn't. Simply all the places where damns were feasible had been 
used.


> The lack of water in spain is 100% fixable. All it takes is science, 
> technology and political will.

Not really.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.