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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Science of cycling still largely mysterious Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 10:15:34 -0700 Lines: 74 Message-ID: <5v1s2kd1oemf3o9k1n7jldttl2nrgnaps2@4ax.com> References: <100i80u$2aalg$1@dont-email.me> <s8fp2kphnrt2dkh54n522cvqi3ur2bp2l1@4ax.com> <100iphn$2doci$1@dont-email.me> <jkqp2kp0aqu5g75lejpj6tkmqqa1hqnb9h@4ax.com> <100jjld$2lstu$1@dont-email.me> <100knfd$2rmvg$3@dont-email.me> <DPmXP.478615$lK62.50694@fx13.iad> <m96eu7FplgjU1@mid.individual.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net GN6/UecAJj2mQxqTQcORTQ4LvSP3DRAz/rp158aI9F3l+auceg Cancel-Lock: sha1:37EZmk3vv5hZx8ylNoK2etyCFMY= sha256:Cibbb5c0iwYnPRh+LM+AnD2R32WNjZvEAc9UvO8I+Ms= User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 On 21 May 2025 16:56:39 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: >cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Wed May 21 10:20:27 2025 zen cycle wrote: >>>> On 5/20/2025 4:58 PM, floriduh dumbass wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 20 May 2025 16:43:34 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/20/2025 1:38 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 20 May 2025 11:44:29 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Science of cycling still largely mysterious" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This article from 2016 recently popped up again: >>>>>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/science-of-cycling-still- >>>>>>>> mysterious-1.3699012 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As is the case with most issues, if I think I need to know something I >>>>>>> go about trying to learn it. I've little time for learning about stuff >>>>>>> I have no need to know. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yep. So much for curiosity, so much for education... Ignorance is bliss! >>>>> >>>>> No, ignorance would be when someone doesn't know something they need >>>>> to know. >>>> >>> >>> the irony of being ignorant of the definition of ignorance..... >>> >>> Just for the edification of the floriduh dumbass - ignorance is not >>> predicated by need. >> >> >> >> >> Perhaps you can tell us more about your virtual races and how they add in >> rolling resistance and wind resistance. Talk about ignorance! >> > >Maybe try it if you’re so interested? As you complain about roads/weather >would give one an option. > >Roger Merriman Good idea. Tom might already have a power meter somewhere: <https://www.novabbs.com/tech/article-flat.php?id=89085&group=rec.bicycles.tech#89085> "Like I said, I had a power meter on my Colnago and after reading a couple of times and recording that 298 watts it matched what I thought I was making and I had no further need for it. It is still laying around here somewhere but I couldn't care less." Tom could start by connecting his existing power meter to his computer, install the app, create an account, and he's ready to ride. Or, he can use his Garmin speed/cadence sensor(s). With Tom's impressive wealth, cost should not be an obstacle. 14 day free trial. After that, $20/month or $200/year plus sales tax. "Zwift: your complete guide" <https://www.bikeradar.com/features/zwift-your-complete-guide> "If you have a power meter, you can make do with any kind of trainer or rollers. Zwift will use the data from your power meter to calculate your in-game speed, but obviously you’ll miss out on simulated gradients and controlled Workouts that come with using an indoor training bike or smart trainer. A speed/cadence sensor is the most basic option and enables you to use your regular bike (with no power meter) attached to a conventional trainer." -- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558