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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: How many different unit fractions are lessorequal than all unit fractions? (infinitary) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 20:18:09 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <6160c5b40650b2f1d6e03c082a4b8b2eac83d2aa@i2pn2.org> References: <vb4rde$22fb4$2@solani.org> <vdu874$271t$2@news.muc.de> <vdua6f$18vqi$2@dont-email.me> <vdubg3$24me$1@news.muc.de> <4bc3b086-247a-4547-89cc-1d47f502659d@tha.de> <ve0n4i$1vps$1@news.muc.de> <ve10qb$1p7ge$1@dont-email.me> <ve117p$vob$1@news.muc.de> <ve315q$24f8f$3@dont-email.me> <ve46vu$324$2@news.muc.de> <ve5u2i$2jobg$4@dont-email.me> <ve6329$19d5$1@news.muc.de> <ve64kl$2m0nm$4@dont-email.me> <ve66f3$19d5$2@news.muc.de> <ve683o$6c2o$1@solani.org> <09d9f0df-b1bb-42a7-af9b-890bfbcfc581@att.net> <b0fa9a1c-8375-4523-a15e-65789688660e@tha.de> <3f63bc22-83b2-4d56-9837-849551170c77@att.net> <50ac7044-f8c1-47d9-947f-9fa6044e1848@tha.de> <68b8be64-7fe8-47e7-a991-7adf14713af5@att.net> <vejmkm$e069$1@solani.org> <eb21591a-a60a-4baf-bdbd-afef2a69c230@att.net> <vejte9$e3ds$1@solani.org> <53460f91-4542-4a92-bc4b-833c2ad61e52@att.net> <ventec$255vi$2@dont-email.me> <venunr$2533b$4@dont-email.me> <85cf251afab29f3d64d61a77dd728d0aebdaba96@i2pn2.org> <veoshk$2asur$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 00:18:09 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2365041"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <veoshk$2asur$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3038 Lines: 31 On 10/16/24 1:18 PM, WM wrote: > On 16.10.2024 13:54, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 10/16/24 4:50 AM, WM wrote: >>> On 16.10.2024 10:27, WM wrote: >>>> On 15.10.2024 02:00, Jim Burns wrote: >>>> >>>>> So, what is that perfectly reasonable explanation? >>>> >>>> There is a general rule not open to further discussion: >>>> When doubling natural numbers we obtain natural numbers which have >>>> not been doubled. >>> >>> CORRECTION: When doubling natural numbers we obtain even numbers >>> which have not been doubled. >> >> But that isn't actually a general rule, > > Of course it is a general rule. Doubling creates larger numbers. > > Regards, WM But those numbers are still in the set, and all the members of the set were doubled, so none of the doubled values got us to a value that wasn't doubled. You can only get your rule if you don't actualy do what you said you did. This is the problem of thinking of infinite sets as if they were just like finite set. The fact that they don't have an "end" over there breaks some of your assumptions.