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Subject: Re: Relativity is a pseudoscience II. The Hafele-Keating HOAX,
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ALL FOUR CLOCKS were used for both sets of flights. You need at least
three clocks, and preferably more, to perform correlated rate change
analysis.


Haven't you read my description of the technique?


Reread the papers. You've descended into complete fantasy here.


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Let me know HOW DID THEY SEPARATE THE DATA FROM EASTWARD AND WESTWARD
FLIGHTS by using the SAME clocks, without real time interconnection with
Washington?

You HAVE TO think deeper about the complete setup for the experiment.
Your thinking fail at many levels: measuring each path separately and
the statistical manipulations that were used AFTER the experiment.

If four clocks were used, how did they extract the data regarding
eastward and westward flights, if the separate path (east-west) CAN'T BE
DISTINGUISHED, because the four clocks accumulated the data of the whole
trip? Did they use some theoretical formulae to do so, plus the
statistical manipulation?

The experiment IS NOT CREDIBLE. It was a FRAUD, and relativists
celebrated it, because they are willing to buy anything that led to say
"Einstein was right".

Make sense, please.


Read this critic:
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Critical Reflection on the Hafele and Keating Experiment
Witold Nawrot
Hungarian Academy of Science

https://www.kritik-relativitaetstheorie.de/2013/06/critical-reflection-on-the-hafele-and-keating-experiment/

EXCERPT:

The derivation of formulae in the Hafele and Keating experiment had
intuitive character and, as the final formula shows, the intuition does
not disappoint the authors. However, this intuitive derivation only
works for the rotational motion of the Earth around its axis. It is not
valid for any other rotational motions.

Of course the time dilation effect, which Hafele and Keating tried to
measure many years ago, is now applied in the GPS navigation, but the
fact of publishing and accepting the erroneous theory and the
unsatisfactory experimental part in the most renowned physical journals
[4,5] forces us to reflect on the understanding of the Relativity Theory
and perhaps to take a closer look at other experiments from the RT area,
as well as from the other branches of physics.

The experiment performed in the way described above has no scientific
value and the derivation of any additional ideas on the basis of this
experiment can lead to false conclusions.

References:

W. Nawrot,  Phys. Essays 17, 518 (2004)
A.G. Kelly, Phys. Essays 13, 616 (2000)
D. E. Spencer,  U. Shama Proc. International Scientific Congress
„Fundamental Problems of Natural Science and Engineering” 
Saint-Petersburg, Russia 2002
J.C. Hafele, Nature 227, 270 (1970)
J.C. Hafele and  R.E. Keating, Science 177, 166 (1972)

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