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Subject: Re: New Berlin Philharmonic box is similiar to the Furtwangler box
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 06:33:38 +0000
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On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 4:14:21 +0000, Pluted Pup wrote:

>
> https://www.berliner-philharmoniker-recordings.com/karajan-edition.html?___store=rec_en
>
> The same bad packaging and fake stereo is in the
> new Karajan box as is in the Furtwangler box:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Radio-Recordings-1939-45-BERLINER-PHILHARMONIKER/dp/B07NHRJ3PM/
>
> I checked the first Karajan hybrid SACD (first of 24) and
> it is a 1953 and 1954 recordings in fake stereo. Mono
> recordings do not change their sound when they are folded
> from two channels into one, only stereo and fake recordings do.
>
> Why muffle good tape sources with fake stereo? It also
> is misleadingly described, the CD is listed in mono,
> but it's not, it's fake stereo. Just like in the
> Furtwangler box they do not disclose that the audio is
> degraded by fake stereo.
>
> As for the packaging, what John Fowler says about the
> Furtwangler box from the above link roughly applies here:
>
> "The packaging is just plain dumb: It was designed by an "artist"
> who was more concerned with superficial appearances than with
> ease of use. Any librarian could have done a better job. The
> 184 page hardcover book has three informative essays (in German
> and English) + many rare photographs. That part is good. What
> it doesn't have is the basics: No program notes about the music
> (some of which is quite obscure). No texts or translations for
> the vocal works. The 22 SACDs are packaged in a fold-out box
> without proper protection for the discs (and no recording dates
> or track listings on the box). The table of contents does not
> include recording dates either (you must turn to the fine print
> on pages 9-37 to discover discographic information). It even
> lacks an alphabetical index to composers and compositions."
>
> 128 page book, 24 hybrid SACDs.

Still obsessed with boxology ?!?

Cheers!