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In article <VfWcnXFMAKqEi437nZ2dnZfqn_oAAAAA@giganews.com>, pursent100
@gmail.com says...
> 
> % wrote:
> > Skeeter wrote:
> >> In article <BtFPN.509822$vFZa.464902@fx13.iad>, ted.street@gmail.com
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> Maximus wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Ted wrote:
> >>>>> Michael Christ wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 4/04/2024 3:00 pm, Ted wrote:
> >>>>>>> Maximus wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ted wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Attila wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 03 Apr 2024 09:10:50 GMT, "Ted"
> >>>>>>>>>> <ted.street@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> >>>>>>>>>> <u29PN.128050$_a1e.117460@fx16.iad> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have yet to see any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence that any soul
> >>>>>>>>>> exists.  >> >> >> >> > > > > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OMG, you're kidding, right?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WTF do you think it is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that >> >> holds >> you >>>>>> up, man??
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Muscle and bone.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How ridiculous. When your soul
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leaves your body, your
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> muscle >> and >> bone >>>> collapse to the ground because
> >>>>>>>>>> they're >> no >> longer >> being >> supported by the >>>> soul.
> >>>>>>>>>> That's obvious.  >> >> >> >> > > >
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the muscle and bones are still
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there but the soul
> >>>>>>>>>>>> isn't.  >> >> Good >> class, >>> well done.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The first time the question was asked:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are assuming there was a "soul"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there in the first place.  What is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your basis for that assumption?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the beatles
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently you are unable to provide a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rational answer so you resort to attempted
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deflection and redirection.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't claim the Beatles weren't real. I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember seeing
> >>>>>>>>>>>> them >> on >> > Ed Sullivan. They were quite real. Do you
> >>>> think >>Ed >>>>>>Sullivan >> was a >> > myth too?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember seeing them on Jack Parr, their
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first American appearance, but that has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with the existence or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-existence of a soul.  They even don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accomplish a misdirection or attempted change
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of subject very well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They do however strongly emphasize a complete
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and total failure to address the actual issue
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well as a failure to even attempt to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer the question asked.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The "actual issue", as I see it, is your
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implication that Ed Sullivan was a myth!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The actual issue is the question I asked above and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will repeat here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The second time the question was asked:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> " You are assuming there was a "soul" there in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> first place.  What is your basis for that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumption?"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, what is your basis for that assumption?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, the Ed Sullivan Show was not the first
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> appearance by the Beatles in the US?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Teenage music fans comprised a large part of The
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beatles? fan base. The news magazine show The
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Huntley-Brinkley Report likely didn?t register
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with them. But anyone watching the show on Nov.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18, 1963, saw The Beatles? first TV appearance in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the U.S."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Beatles showed up on American TV again a few
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks before their first live TV appearance in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. On Jan.  3.  1964, talk show host Jack Paar
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aired clips of the Fab Four performing live
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions of ?From Me to You? and ?She Loves You?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the ever-present audiences of screaming
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> teenagers, per The Trivia Book of The Beatles."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw that show on TV.  They were greeted with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hysterical laughter.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed Sullivan was on  Feb. 9, 1964.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/the-beatles-1st-tv-appearance-in-the-u-s-wasnt-the-ed-sullivan-show.html/ 
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for straightening that out, Attila. I was
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> just a kid then, so I don't remember.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Once again you ignored the basic question but I can
> >>>>>>>>>>>> repeat it - again - for the third time:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>   " You are assuming there was a "soul" there in the first
> >>>>>>>>>>>>   place.  What is your basis for that assumption?"
> >>>>>>>>>>> I already told you. Your soul is what holds you up.
> >>>>>>>>>>> That's obvious.
> >>>>>>>>>> You have made that assumption clear.  I am asking for the
> >>>>>>>>>> basis you use for that assumption.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Or did you just make it up?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The basis is simple observation. When someone's soul leaves
> >>>>>>>>> their body, they fall down. Because there's no longer
> >>>>>>>>> anything holding them up. As I said, it's obvious. So
> >>>>>>>>> obvious that I don't understand why you're not getting it.
> >>>>>>>> because it's not a legitimate proposition. the soul is not in
> >>>>>>>> evidence. you have to establish first that a soul exists
> >>>>>>>> before you can posit any arguments about it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If the soul doesn't exist then why are there still monkeys?
> >>>>>> I doubt it minimus dickus will answer that excellent question,
> >>>>>> Ted.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LOL!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> He is not about truth, he is about lifestyle.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Michael Christ
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And just as you predicted, he sidestepped the question instead of
> >>>>> answering it.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> no I did not liar. I requested clarification of it. and I or anyone
> >>>> is under no obligation to answer your questions anyway, liar.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What question? About the monkeys? I'd just like to know what exactly it
> >>> is you have against monkeys. Makes no sense to me.
> >>
> >> There better not be anyone dissing monkeys. You know how I live monkeys.
> >>
> >  >
> > 'i live monkeys'
> > 
> > https://postimg.cc/cuSJ4pty  LOL
> 
> you typo'ed

his links are broken too