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Path: ...!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!us3.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=e3H9iWn71Il8@dMS8Q2e`lHWonT5<]0TmQ;nb^V>PUff5[gZBW6J?LlRQ?47NQ;EPkI_=J7oL[Gnjk^MnT:fWB1hMba][>SC2Cgf;]EoU=id5f=R<hY6_C9Th X-Complaints-To: support@blocknews.net Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 05:31:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Betterbird (Windows) From: DFS <nospam@dfs.com> Subject: Re: Windows advantage: quality of applications Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy References: <v1b791$2ln8f$2@dont-email.me> <ib8i3jpsn8qgcsl4l3a5lin9lan9men5t1@4ax.com> <v1b8br$2ln8f$3@dont-email.me> <6639497b$0$6450$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <v1c86s$31jm7$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v1c86s$31jm7$2@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 262 Message-ID: <663b70a7$0$8099$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1715171495 reader.netnews.com 8099 127.0.0.1:59569 Bytes: 11211 On 5/6/2024 11:46 PM, vallor wrote: > On Mon, 6 May 2024 17:19:55 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in > <6639497b$0$6450$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>: > >> On 5/6/2024 2:43 PM, vallor wrote: >>> On Mon, 06 May 2024 14:29:47 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in >>> <ib8i3jpsn8qgcsl4l3a5lin9lan9men5t1@4ax.com>: >>> >>>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als >>>> >>>> >>>> I got that easily with Mint Software Manager. Works very well. DFS >>>> is easily impressed. >>> >>> I don't think there was anything in his pretty gui that couldn't >>> be sussed-out through the Linux command line -- either by examining >>> /proc or /sys; or running tools like dmidecode, cpuid, lscpu, or lsmem >>> (to name a few). >> >> >> Hours if not days of combing thru command-line output to assemble what >> HWiNFO for Windows shows in 2 seconds, in a perfect and easily navigated >> layout. > > Hours if not days? Exaggerate much? That statement lets me know you haven't taken even a casual glance at HWiNFO. I seriously doubt you can use any or all Linux tools to duplicate the info provided by HWiNFO (Windows). > You should try dmidecode -- I think it's been ported to Windows. https://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/dmidecode.htm > Handy for things like discovering what memory is installed in a machine, > including brand name, part number, and serial number. zowie! For memory modules, HWiNFO only gives you: -------------------------------------------------------------------- [General Information] Total Memory Size: 16 GBytes Total Memory Size [MB]: 16384 [Current Performance Settings] Maximum Supported Memory Clock: Unlimited Current Memory Clock: 1855.6 MHz Current Timing (tCAS-tRCD-tRP-tRAS): 16-20-20-38 Memory Channels Supported: 2 Memory Channels Active: 2 Command Rate (CR): 1T Read to Read Delay (tRDRD_SC) Same Chipselect: 1T Read to Read Delay (tRDRD_SG/TrdrdScL) Same Bank Group: 5T Read to Read Delay (tRDRD_SD) Same DIMM: 4T Read to Read Delay (tRDRD_DD) Different DIMM: 4T Write to Write Delay (tWRWR_SC) Same Chipselect: 1T Write to Write Delay (tWRWR_SG/TwrwrScL) Same Bank Group: 5T Write to Write Delay (tWRWR_SD) Same DIMM: 6T Write to Write Delay (tWRWR_DD) Different DIMM: 6T Read to Write Delay (tRDWR_SC) Same Chipselect: 10T Read to Write Delay (tRDWR_SG/TrdwrScL) Same Bank Group: 10T Read to Write Delay (tRDWR_DG/TrdwrScDlr) Different Bank Group: 10T Read to Write Delay (tRDWR_SD) Same DIMM: 10T Read to Write Delay (tRDWR_DD) Different DIMM: 10T Write to Read Delay (tWRRD_SC) Same Chipselect: 2T Write to Read Delay (tWRRD_SG/TwrrdScL) Same Bank Group: 2T Write to Read Delay (tWRRD_SD) Same DIMM: 2T Write to Read Delay (tWRRD_DD) Different DIMM: 2T Read to Precharge Delay (tRTP): 12T Write to Precharge Delay (tWTP): 35T Write Recovery Time (tWR): 24T RAS# to RAS# Delay (tRRD_L): 9T RAS# to RAS# Delay (tRRD_S): 6T Row Cycle Time (tRC): 75T Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC): 560T Four Activate Window (tFAW): 34T Row: 2 [P0 CHANNEL A/DIMM 1] - 8 GB PC4-25600 DDR4 SDRAM Corsair CMK16GX4M2E3200C16 [General Module Information] Module Number: 2 Module Size: 8 GBytes Memory Type: DDR4 SDRAM Module Type: Unbuffered DIMM (UDIMM) Memory Speed: 1600.0 MHz (DDR4-3200 / PC4-25600) Module Manufacturer: Corsair Module Part Number: CMK16GX4M2E3200C16 Module Revision: 0.0 Module Serial Number: N/A Module Manufacturing Date: N/A Module Manufacturing Location: 0 SDRAM Manufacturer: Samsung DRAM Steppping: 0.0 Error Check/Correction: None [Module Characteristics] Row Address Bits: 16 Column Address Bits: 10 Module Density: 8192 Mb Number Of Ranks: 1 Number Of Bank Groups: 4 Device Width: 8 bits Bus Width: 64 bits Die Count: 1 Module Nominal Voltage (VDD): 1.2 V Minimum SDRAM Cycle Time (tCKAVGmin): 0.93800 ns (1066 MHz) Maximum SDRAM Cycle Time (tCKAVGmax): 1.50000 ns CAS# Latencies Supported: 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 Minimum CAS# Latency Time (tAAmin): 13.500 ns Minimum RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCDmin): 13.500 ns Minimum Row Precharge Time (tRPmin): 13.500 ns Minimum Active to Precharge Time (tRASmin): 33.000 ns Supported Module Timing at 1066.7 MHz: 15-15-15-36 Supported Module Timing at 933.3 MHz: 13-13-13-31 Supported Module Timing at 800.0 MHz: 11-11-11-27 Supported Module Timing at 666.7 MHz: 9-9-9-22 Supported Module Timing at 533.3 MHz: 8-8-8-18 Minimum Active to Active/Refresh Time (tRCmin): 46.500 ns Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC1min): 350.000 ns Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC2min): 260.000 ns Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC4min): 160.000 ns Minimum Four Activate Window Delay Time (tFAWmin): 21.000 ns Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Different Bank Group (tRRD_Smin): 3.700 ns Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Same Bank Group (tRRD_Lmin): 5.300 ns Minimum CAS to CAS Delay Time - Same Bank Group (tCCD_Lmin): 5.356 ns [Features] Module Temperature Sensor (TSOD): Not Supported Module Nominal Height: 31 - 32 mm Module Maximum Thickness (Front): 1 - 2 mm Module Maximum Thickness (Back): 1 - 2 mm Address Mapping from Edge Connector to DRAM: Standard [Intel Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)] XMP Revision: 2.0 [Certified Profile [Enabled]] Module VDD Voltage Level: 1.35 V Minimum SDRAM Cycle Time (tCKAVGmin): 0.62500 ns (1600 MHz) CAS# Latencies Supported: 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 Minimum CAS# Latency Time (tAAmin): 10.000 ns Minimum RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCDmin): 12.500 ns Minimum Row Precharge Time (tRPmin): 12.500 ns Minimum Active to Precharge Time (tRASmin): 23.750 ns Supported Module Timing at 1600.0 MHz: 16-20-20-38 Supported Module Timing at 1466.7 MHz: 15-19-19-35 Supported Module Timing at 1333.3 MHz: 14-17-17-32 Supported Module Timing at 1200.0 MHz: 12-15-15-29 Supported Module Timing at 1066.7 MHz: 11-14-14-26 Supported Module Timing at 933.3 MHz: 10-12-12-23 Supported Module Timing at 800.0 MHz: 8-10-10-19 Supported Module Timing at 666.7 MHz: 7-9-9-16 Minimum Active to Active/Refresh Time (tRCmin): 36.250 ns Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC1min): 349.000 ns Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC2min): 259.000 ns Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC4min): 159.000 ns Minimum Four Activate Window Delay Time (tFAWmin): 22.000 ns Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Different Bank Group (tRRD_Smin): 3.750 ns Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Same Bank Group (tRRD_Lmin): 5.625 ns <then the same info for each memory module> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HWiNFO is doomed by dmidecode -t 6 ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========