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On Sat, 11 May 2024 14:16:18 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>> On Fri, 10 May 2024 17:33:22 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-05-09, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 09 May 2024 06:47:55 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 08:27:04 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think the most common complaint of people using Linux CLI or GUI
>>>>>> tools is that they look dated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are they taking Microsoft, of all people, as arbiters of good taste?
>>>>
>>>> There are definitely more people out there who are fans of the
>>>> Microsoft aesthetics than there are people who appreciate the dated
>>>> interfaces of open-source software. All of them will admit that the
>>>> "ugly" software still does the job, but it appears that the way a
>>>> program looks is as important as whether it completes the task.
>>> 
>>> I don't admit it. And I don't like the Windows "aesthetic." I do find
>>> it a bit amusing that Windows' users simultaneously claim that 1)
>>> Linux copies the Windows desktop and 2) It has a dated interface.
>>
>> Both are true, 1) Linux indeed copies features and aesthetics of both
>> Windows and Mac OS but 2) does a very poor job of getting it right, in
>> my cases. The lack of consistency is very noticeable, and you'll have
>> something like the default desktop of Ubuntu which looks incredible...
>> until you open up a program which doesn't fit with the overall look at
>> all.
> 
> Like Microsoft's own system apps that revert to some old-style GUI
> rather than the flat-ass Win 10+ interface?
> 
> Or applications that provide their own window decoration no matter what
> OS they're on?

To be fair, no one uses Windows' system apps. WordPad's lack of use, in 
particular, is a shame. It really was more than most people needed.

>>> Actually Linux has a LOT of interfaces. Windows only has one, and it's
>>> "dated" and ugly in my opinion.
>>
>> I like the look myself, but find that it quickly gets boring. In fact,
>> that's probably why I like installing Linux and trying something else
>> out all the time.
> 
> I hear you on that one.  Though I kind of fixate on Fluxbox (or Xfce4)
> and use lxappearance, gtk-chtheme, gtk-theme-switch2,
> xfce4-appearance-settings, Fluxbox themes, or qt5ct to get a more
> harmonious look).

I alwaus end up missing the Buuf icons. I kind of wish I could use them in 
Windows. The fact that my desktop looks like everyone else's (except for 
the animated wallpaper courtesy of ArmouryCrate), does a lot to bore me.