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Path: ...!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!us2.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=\=go@fYKlEmIQi<RSX3BniHWonT5<]0TmQ;nb^V>PUff5[gZBW6J?Llo>@oN;JD0Zc=V1nVkY9>kafZRScNhKd8i3_;13J7?Z0lB::GSaLS3BgIaaghgoVNDc[G=[?i7POIc X-Complaints-To: support@blocknews.net From: Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> Subject: Re: cpu-x Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy References: <v1b791$2ln8f$2@dont-email.me> <v1betu$2p8gq$1@dont-email.me> <66399f10$0$6551$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <v1f0m2$3ot7f$3@dont-email.me> <v1fr57$3urp9$3@dont-email.me> <v1jqfo$v3os$3@dont-email.me> <663fba6f$1$6436$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <66400e83$0$7173$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <v1pt96$2k7b1$1@dont-email.me> <6640b38c$0$7175$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <v1r0hk$2s5uh$1@dont-email.me> <664146ce$0$1258332$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <v22ehe$t90n$2@dont-email.me> User-Agent: Pan/0.146 (Hic habitat felicitas; d7a48b4 gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pan.git) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 15 May 2024 18:15:43 GMT Lines: 83 Message-ID: <6644fbcf$2$8480$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1715796943 reader.netnews.com 8480 127.0.0.1:36395 Bytes: 6034 On Wed, 15 May 2024 13:49:34 +0000, RonB wrote: > On 2024-05-12, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >> On Sun, 12 May 2024 18:07:49 +0000, RonB wrote: >> >>>> The agreements are seemingly made in such a way that the corporations >>>> behind them can, whenever they want, come after us whenever they >>>> want. It's unlikely that they will, and that's why most people don't >>>> bother to read them, but the power to do so is still in their hands. >>>> That understanding is one which should push people to use free >>>> software instead, but I think that most people won't bother unless a >>>> corporation does, indeed, eventually come after them. >>> >>> Yep. That's why I don't take it seriously. It's all skewed against the >>> customer. A contract is supposed to be an agreement between two >>> parties, >>> but these corporate wonks change the contract constantly, and it's >>> always "take it or leave it." In other words you buy the software, >>> plan to use it for several years and they pull the rug out from under >>> your feet by demanding you agree to a new contract (not the one that >>> came with the software in the first place). I think I use about two or >>> three proprietary applications (maybe more, but I can't come up with >>> more right now). One of those applications is Fade In. Basically one >>> man. I've mentioned a couple times to him that such and such tweak >>> would be nice — within a couple weeks there's a new version with that >>> tweak implemented. The license agreement is basically, don't give it >>> to anyone else — you can use it on your own computers (as many as you >>> want) and they can be any combination of Linux, Windows or Mac OS. >>> Updates are always free. >>> >>> The other proprietary software (that I can think of now) is office >>> suite that comes with TextMaker. They provide five licenses that can >>> be divided between any combination of Linux, Windows or Mac OS >>> machines. They're a German outfit, and seem to be well liked. But I've >>> never read the fine print in their EULA. Maybe they have the "right" >>> to take one of my kidneys with two hours notice, who knows? >>> >>> I would imagine that a lot of these EULAs could be challenged in court >>> if anyone cared enough to do it. >> >> I imagine that corporations would make the excuse that if their EULAs >> are challenged and they can no longer set whatever conditions they >> choose on the user, they will simply stop producing software. They tend >> to play with that kind of stuff quite a lot, telling whoever is in >> charge that lots of people will lose their jobs, their livelihoods and >> by extension lots of tax income if they don't play ball. The power >> corporations have with governments, by itself, is a good reason to >> avoid proprietary software if you can manage it. Companies aren't all >> bad, but the bigger the company, the worse it gets. > > Agreed. If you absolutely need the application there's not much you can > do. But just by using Linux I have very little proprietary software. Even though I can afford to buy proprietary software, I usually find that the open-source ones are either better or good enough. As long as they don't eventually kill themselves as useful applications the way that Thunderbird just did, I continue using them forever. >>>> I recall one woman refusing to use proprietary software because her >>>> financial information had repeatedly been stolen. The loss came as a >>>> result of bugs in proprietary software and malware, and she swore >>>> that she would never allow herself to be a slave of such >>>> easily-compromised software again. I know that she has a blog, but I >>>> don't remember what it was. >>> >>> I believe that. My wife's credit card has been compromised five or six >>> times. She uses Windows and Windows applications. >> >> Mine was compromised a lot in the 2000s, but it seems to have had a lot >> to do with the machines used at gas stations more than anything else. >> My wallet also did nothing to block RFID signals at the time. The last >> time it was compromised was when I bought this laptop. My wife >> eventually let me know that Best Buy, where I bought it using a credit >> card, had a number of complaints over the years. Whoever purchases >> there is basically give his credit card away to thieves... I don't know >> if it's BestBuy itself or the terrible security on the site, but it was >> compromised soon after the purchase. > > It could be a coincidence. And she uses her card a lot more than I use > mine. Yeah, you don't have much of a choice other than PayPal if you're making online purchases though.