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On 5/17/2024 11:14 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On Fri, 17 May 2024 13:41:10 +0000, RonB wrote:
> 
>> On 2024-05-17, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 May 2024 03:04:45 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-05-15, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 14:04:34 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-05-14, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 May 2024 22:54:36 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2024 12:14:27 GMT, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ... explain how it is the _software_ that is making them money,
>>>>>>>>> and not the _support_ for that software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is the support that is making the money. That is the point,
>>>>>>>> after all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ever heard of “give away the razor, sell the razorblades”? That’s
>>>>>>>> how Free Software works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, it would be beneficial to open-source developers to make sure
>>>>>>> that their software breaks easily and crashes, so as to sell the
>>>>>>> support. Gotcha.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, that would be brilliant, because customers would flock by the
>>>>>> droves to useless, crap software... But you may have something,
>>>>>> people keep using crap Microsoft Windows even though their
>>>>>> "customers" are really Microsoft's unpaid beta testers.
>>>>>
>>>>> They use Windows because it's what they got on the computer they
>>>>> purchased which cost less than a similar Mac. Considering how Windows
>>>>> can run on just about any hardware and support every third-party
>>>>> peripheral they plug into it, they are not likely to seek out an
>>>>> alternative, even if it crashes a few times. It also has the largest
>>>>> library of software, and tons of experts can be found on the web to
>>>>> help them with any technical problem they have, free of charge. Those
>>>>> are real benefits, no matter how much one hates Windows.
>>>>
>>>> I find a lot better support for Linux on the Internet than I do for
>>>> Windows. There are a LOT of people who'll tell you how to fix
>>>> Windows...
>>>> only problem is, none of it EVER works. When my wife's old computer
>>>> BSOD'd (twice during upgrades) I found (and tried) about 20
>>>> "solutions,"
>>>> none of which worked.
>>>> The second time I went to what actually worked sooner — using a Linux
>>>> Live[B USB to download her data and rebuild the computer from scratch.
>>>> I could be a great Windows support expert... I've already memorized
>>>> the three Rs,
>>>> "Reboot. Reboot. Rebuild."
>>>>
>>>> (Again this is from a years back and I will admit that wife has had a
>>>> lot less trouble since then. Although I still have to reset her
>>>> network something or other when it slows to crawl on the Internet
>>>> (what is that crap?). And I still think Windows is the most convoluted
>>>> crap OS ever made.
>>>
>>> There are three issues I can imagine for the slow Internet: 1) an IP
>>> mismatch caused by a crappy TP-Link router (I've had this issue), 2)
>>> terrible Wi-Fi hardware such as the chips made by MediaTek, 3) too much
>>> distance and interference between her computer and the router. If you
>>> have a cheap TP-Link router, get rid of that thing. Their more
>>> expensive models are fine, but the one selling for around $30 causes a
>>> lot of chaos.
>>
>> I have a TP-Link router and it works well because the computers, except
>> for one room, are connected via LAN cables. I think TP-Link routers
>> can't handle a lot of WiFi traffic — they overheat. But the Gigabyte
>> Ethernet ports seem to be rock solid. There's computers in nine
>> locations in this house. Fortunately, when they ran the phone cables
>> they used CAT 5, so I just re-terminated the cables to CAT 5 jacks,
>> added five, cheap ($7 Gigabyte switches) and ran some CAT 5 cable at the
>> base of the wall for some of the locations not near a jack — and
>> everyone has fast, reliable Internet. Now that you mention it, I don't
>> think my wife's computer has had to have the network reset since I ran
>> the Ethernet cable to her computer. But I never had problems with the
>> Linux computers when using the same WiFi connections.
> 
> With the aforementioned TP-Link router a technician from my ISP gave me, I
> had no problems in Linux either. However, the moment I got back into
> Windows, it wouldn't give me any kind of Internet after connecting to the
> router. I only eventually figured out that the router in question was
> using an already used IP address despite being configured not to. Why that
> would only be a problem for Windows is beyond me.
>   
>>>>> Linux has much of the above too, but its library of software isn't as
>>>>> impressive and the software's general quality isn't there either. It
>>>>> works on anything, that's true, but not anyone is comfortable with
>>>>> the process of installing it, no matter how easy it is.
>>>>
>>>> I understand. I've known people who buy a new Windows computer every
>>>> time the old one slows down because that's all they want to know.
>>>> "Doesn't work right any more, but a new one."
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, we're dealing with high inflation and a likely recession
>>> which should prompt most people to save as much money as they can by
>>> keeping their hardware for as long as possible. Linux is going to be
>>> everyone's best friend soon.
>>
>> You're probably right. It's already happening in South America.
> 
> And I don't blame them for rejecting Windows or anything else American,
> considering what the CIA did to topple their democratically elected
> governments in the past to make them puppet states of the USA. How many
> Latin leaders need to die in a plane crash before the world realizes that
> the American government, not the people, is indeed The Great Satan?

kooks