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On 6/7/2024 5:26 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
> "Jeroen Belleman" <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in message news:v3vtf6$2824r$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 6/7/24 22:35, john larkin wrote:
>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:53:35 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/7/24 16:49, john larkin wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, Hamas makes sense. They send Jews to hell because they are
>>>>> heretics, and send Muslims to heaven to be blessed martyrs. So for
>>>>> Hamas, killing is always win-win.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Some kind of sense, given that there is neither heaven, nor hell.
>>>> Religion, islam in particular, is only pernicious brainwashing.
>>>> There is no afterlife. There is only this life. Don't waste it.
>>>>
>>>> Jeroen Belleman
>>>
>>> Until you understand the origin of the universe and the nature of
>>> consciousness, you can't know.
>>>
>>> Religion is human's reason to have morality. Morality leads to
>>> enlightment and a kind, just, productive society. Where else would
>>> morality and justice come from?
>>>
>>> One interpretation of religion is our collective feelings about proper
>>> behavior to others. Obviously, there are different religions with,
>>> possibly, genetic components.
>>>
>>> In my personal experience, religious people are nicer than atheists.
>>>
>>> Better cooks too.
>>>
>>
>> Oh! That's nonsense. Religion is a human invention, much like
>> father Christmas and the tooth fairy. The difference is that
>> many people never get over it.
>>
>> Religion has no right to claim to be the source of morality!
>> Morality stems from a desire to cooperate to our mutual benefit.
>> Religion never even comes into it.
>>
>> I see no clear tendency of religious people to be nicer. I've
>> seen quite a few who were real bastards.
> 
> That's pretty much my experience too.


Come to New England you'll meet a different cut of conservative, who has 
no need for God or the Bible to explain why they think women shouldn't 
vote or homosexuals should be hung. "I just don't like the fuckers."