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On 6/7/2024 6:12 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
> "bitrex" <user@example.net> wrote in message news:6663837f$0$2363147$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>> On 6/7/2024 5:26 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
>>> "Jeroen Belleman" <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in message news:v3vtf6$2824r$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 6/7/24 22:35, john larkin wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:53:35 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
>>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/7/24 16:49, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, Hamas makes sense. They send Jews to hell because they are
>>>>>>> heretics, and send Muslims to heaven to be blessed martyrs. So for
>>>>>>> Hamas, killing is always win-win.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some kind of sense, given that there is neither heaven, nor hell.
>>>>>> Religion, islam in particular, is only pernicious brainwashing.
>>>>>> There is no afterlife. There is only this life. Don't waste it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>
>>>>> Until you understand the origin of the universe and the nature of
>>>>> consciousness, you can't know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Religion is human's reason to have morality. Morality leads to
>>>>> enlightment and a kind, just, productive society. Where else would
>>>>> morality and justice come from?
>>>>>
>>>>> One interpretation of religion is our collective feelings about proper
>>>>> behavior to others. Obviously, there are different religions with,
>>>>> possibly, genetic components.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my personal experience, religious people are nicer than atheists.
>>>>>
>>>>> Better cooks too.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh! That's nonsense. Religion is a human invention, much like
>>>> father Christmas and the tooth fairy. The difference is that
>>>> many people never get over it.
>>>>
>>>> Religion has no right to claim to be the source of morality!
>>>> Morality stems from a desire to cooperate to our mutual benefit.
>>>> Religion never even comes into it.
>>>>
>>>> I see no clear tendency of religious people to be nicer. I've
>>>> seen quite a few who were real bastards.
>>>
>>> That's pretty much my experience too.
>>
>>
>> Come to New England
> 
> Already lived there on two different occasions for a total of about six years.

Well the whole area is full of intelligent, pragmatic, religion-averse 
bastards so...