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On 6/7/2024 6:17 PM, bitrex wrote:
> On 6/7/2024 6:12 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
>> "bitrex" <user@example.net> wrote in message 
>> news:6663837f$0$2363147$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>> On 6/7/2024 5:26 PM, Edward Rawde wrote:
>>>> "Jeroen Belleman" <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in message 
>>>> news:v3vtf6$2824r$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 6/7/24 22:35, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2024 19:53:35 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/7/24 16:49, john larkin wrote:
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, Hamas makes sense. They send Jews to hell because they 
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> heretics, and send Muslims to heaven to be blessed martyrs. So for
>>>>>>>> Hamas, killing is always win-win.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some kind of sense, given that there is neither heaven, nor hell.
>>>>>>> Religion, islam in particular, is only pernicious brainwashing.
>>>>>>> There is no afterlife. There is only this life. Don't waste it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeroen Belleman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until you understand the origin of the universe and the nature of
>>>>>> consciousness, you can't know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Religion is human's reason to have morality. Morality leads to
>>>>>> enlightment and a kind, just, productive society. Where else would
>>>>>> morality and justice come from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One interpretation of religion is our collective feelings about 
>>>>>> proper
>>>>>> behavior to others. Obviously, there are different religions with,
>>>>>> possibly, genetic components.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my personal experience, religious people are nicer than atheists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Better cooks too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh! That's nonsense. Religion is a human invention, much like
>>>>> father Christmas and the tooth fairy. The difference is that
>>>>> many people never get over it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Religion has no right to claim to be the source of morality!
>>>>> Morality stems from a desire to cooperate to our mutual benefit.
>>>>> Religion never even comes into it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see no clear tendency of religious people to be nicer. I've
>>>>> seen quite a few who were real bastards.
>>>>
>>>> That's pretty much my experience too.
>>>
>>>
>>> Come to New England
>>
>> Already lived there on two different occasions for a total of about 
>> six years.
> 
> Well the whole area is full of intelligent, pragmatic, religion-averse 
> bastards so...
> 

To be fair a bunch of them call themselves "liberals"..