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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed2-b.proxad.net!nnrp3-2.free.fr!not-for-mail Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: REASONS RELATIVISTS GIVE FOR DOUBLED DEFLECTION OF NEWTON'S: From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) Reply-To: jjlxa31@xs4all.nl (J. J. Lodder) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 22:15:58 +0200 References: <f0f05bc7729633ba2967b3c10ca46e58@www.novabbs.com> <v5r9fa$f8rc$1@dont-email.me> Organization: De Ster Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.8.5 (ea919cf118) (Mac OS 10.12.6) Lines: 25 Message-ID: <6681bcfe$0$11694$426a34cc@news.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Jun 2024 22:15:58 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.10.137.58 X-Trace: 1719778558 news-4.free.fr 11694 213.10.137.58:49819 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Bytes: 1550 Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> wrote: > On 2024-06-29 13:43:05 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said: > > > REASONS RELATIVISTS GIVE FOR DOUBLED DEFLECTION OF NEWTON'S: Don't reason, solve the equations. > > 1. Newton's plus curved space. > > 2. Gravity plus gravitational potential. > > 3. 2 spin photons. > > 4. > > > 4. Newton's prediction is half of the correct value. And it was a completely ad-hoc 'prediction' to begin with. (and Newton never even thought of it) Using Huygens instead, one would have predicted a zero deflection. There just wasn't any meaningful connection between light and gravity until Einstein formulated the equivalence principle, Jan