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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed3-a.proxad.net!nnrp2-1.free.fr!not-for-mail Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: [SR and synchronization] Cognitive Dissonances and Mental Blockage From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) Reply-To: jjlxa31@xs4all.nl (J. J. Lodder) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 10:44:36 +0200 References: <v9q6eu$1tlm9$1@dont-email.me> <17ec8558f5c4589e$390099$546728$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <v9q6pq$1tjt4$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: De Ster Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.8.5 (ea919cf118) (Mac OS 10.12.6) Lines: 51 Message-ID: <66c45774$0$18415$426a74cc@news.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Aug 2024 10:44:36 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.10.137.58 X-Trace: 1724143476 news-1.free.fr 18415 213.10.137.58:56276 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Bytes: 2993 Python <python@invalid.org> wrote: > Le 17/08/2024 � 14:56, Maciej Wozniak a �crit : > > W dniu 17.08.2024 o 14:52, Python pisze: > >> **An Interesting Case of Mental Blockage and Cognitive Dissonance:** > >> > >> *Einstein-Poincar� Synchronization Procedure and Dr. Lengrand* > >> > >> What's fascinating about certain cranks is that just when you think > >> you've seen all the absurdities they can come up with, they manage to > >> produce something even worse. Their cognitive dissonance and ability > >> to pull out bizarre notions from who knows where, on top of a > >> perfectly well-defined technical procedure, is astonishing. We've seen > >> this before with GPS, where Hachel invents all sorts of fantasies, > >> like atomic clocks in the receivers or synchronization with a clock > >> infinitely far away in a fourth spatial dimension... > >> > >> This is a report of exchanges on the synchronization procedure > >> described by Einstein in his 1905 paper, discussions that took place > >> 17 years ago and more recently on sci.physics.relativity and > >> fr.sci.physique. > >> > >> https://groups.google.com/g/fr.sci.physique/c/KgqI9gqTkR8/m/oMc9X0XjCWMJ > >> > >> *Reminders on the Procedure:* > >> > >> Two identical clocks, A and B, are stationary relative to each other > >> at a certain distance. Their identical functioning (within measurement > >> accuracy) > > > > > > Taking 2 identical pendulum clocks blows > > this pathetic bullshit out. > > > Not at all. A pendulum by itself is not a clock. The > system Earth-Pendulum is. Indeed. Pendulum clocks cannot serve as absolute time keepers, since they need to be calibrated against a real clock. (such as the motions of the Earth) They can only serve to interpolate between astronomical observations. Man-made clocks of better accuracy than the Earth didn't become available until the late 1930-ies. All talk of the relevance of real clocks to Einstein 1905 is hogwash, Jan