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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Higher Education Is Overrated
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:09:26 -0400
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 14:22:50 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 8/22/2024 1:01 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>> John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 06:04:55 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://hbr.org/2010/07/higher-education-is-highly-ove
>>>
>>> The problem is that "higher education" has come to mean "collage
>>> education" when in fact it should be seen as  any advanced knowledge.
>>>
>> That’s rather less knowledge as bows had been known about for hundred if
>> not thousands of years but it’s refinement and more importantly tactics,
>> with such a bow.
>> 
>> 
>>> A rather vivid example is the English Bowman of the 1300's and 1400s
>>> were able to win battles against much larger and much better equipped
>>> French forces.The Battle of Crécy took place on 26 August 1346 between
>>> an English army of from 7,000 to 15,000 (data was somewhat poor in
>>> those days) was able to defeat an army of from 20,000 - 30,000 French
>>> who were equipped with far better equipment. Loses on the English side
>>> was in the region of 1 for every 13-15 French who were killed.
>>>
>>> In the Battle of Agincourt about 100 year later 6,000 to 8,000 English
>>> took on some 14,000?15,000 French and beat them again with about 600
>>> English losses versus 6,000 French losses, and 600 - 2,000 captured.
>>>
>>> While the difference in formal education was probably not great, among
>>> the Gentry, the English had a program to encourage archery and boys
>>> might start archery training as early as 10 years of age and there was
>>> a "government program" to manufacture archery supplies, bows and
>>> arrows.
>>>
>> Bow men weren’t Gentry but the middle classes which was part of the
>> audacity of it!
>> 
>>> By the way, for anyone that cares the "English Long Bow" might better
>>> be called the Welch Long Bow" as it is though it originated in that
>>> country(s).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> That’s is the lore but frankly no one knows, it’s likely to have been used
>> in both Wales and England note that Welsh means foreigners to the Normans
>> which includes the English, or rather the Anglo Saxons and other peoples in
>> Britain at that time.
>> 
>> Roger Merriman
>> 
>> 
>
>
>No one claimed the Welsh invented bows but the general 
>familiarity and skill of making and effectively hitting 
>targets with them, across the entire island generally, 
>proved effective.
>
>https://thehistoryjar.com/2015/12/23/unlawful-games-at-christmas/

I bought a Fred Bear "Polar" semi-recurve to hunt with, but backed
away when I had a good shot at a nice buck. I had no problem with a
gun, which I could quickly take down with a clean shot, but I just
couldn't try to put an arrow into that magnificent animal. Most arrow
shot animals suffer long and hard before finally going down.