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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!cleanfeed3-a.proxad.net!nnrp2-2.free.fr!not-for-mail Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: What composes the mass of an electron? From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) Reply-To: jjlxa31@xs4all.nl (J. J. Lodder) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 15:45:42 +0100 References: <a3b70d34ff5188e99c00b2cf098e783a@www.novabbs.com> <VtGcncnTF4lU6bj6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <looivaFp4pU2@mid.individual.net> <QL6cnduwKJ9OL7r6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> <lorcreFdkemU3@mid.individual.net> <nw-dnWCH258Fx7f6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> <EpmcnU0xmsge_Lf6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <7racndQspek6H7f6nZ2dnZeNn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> Organization: De Ster Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.8.5 (ea919cf118) (Mac OS 10.12.6) Lines: 43 Message-ID: <672b8116$0$413$426a34cc@news.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 06 Nov 2024 15:45:42 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.10.137.58 X-Trace: 1730904342 news-4.free.fr 413 213.10.137.58:55587 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Bytes: 2715 kinak <kin@mob.net.inv> wrote: > Ross Finlayson wrote: > > On 11/05/2024 09:49 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > >> On 11/03/2024 11:53 PM, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>> Am Sonntag000003, 03.11.2024 um 18:28 schrieb Ross Finlayson: > >>>> On 11/02/2024 11:19 PM, Thomas Heger wrote: > >>>>> Am Samstag000002, 02.11.2024 um 01:39 schrieb Ross Finlayson: > >>>>>> On 11/01/2024 11:13 AM, rhertz wrote: > >>>>>>> A definition of mass, as found in Google: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Mass is a measurement of the amount of matter or substance in an > >>>>>>> object. > >>>>>>> It's the total amount of protons, neutrons, and electrons in an > >>>>>>> object." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It's "accepted" since the 60s that protons and neutrons are not > >>>>>>> elementary particles anymore. As stated in the Standard Model of > >>>>>>> Elementary Particles, protons and neutrons are composed of quarks, > >>>>>>> with > >>>>>>> different flavors. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> https://www.quantumdiaries.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2000px- > >>>>>>> Standard_Model_of_Elementary_Particles.svg_.jpg > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> But electrons are thought as elementary particles, so they can't be > >>>>>>> formed by a collection of other elementary particles. Even quarks > >>>>>>> are > >>>>>>> currently thought as working together with elementary gluons (QCD, > >>>>>>> Gauge > >>>>>>> Bossons). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So, what is THE MATTER that electrons contain? > > ---------------------------------- > > Its energy? Merely calling the same thing by another name is not going to help, Jan