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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!eu1.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=M1PJReTd`NK]2f>5GVFLaGHWonT5<]0TMQ;nb^V>PUfF=4BnE8B<dZK;nn2MD>K:;F@bOLY_ADD9BBOY;3M_7WIB?`VoROXfN`JmlB1n1ffPeM X-Complaints-To: support@blocknews.net Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 23:15:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.13.1 Subject: Re: The hamburger Content-Language: en-US Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking References: <2ob5jjhrt5mcmab8dqd6l84cq30j68ajcp@4ax.com> <vguc00$18tb3$1@dont-email.me> <67339afa$0$1895506$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <vh0ad4$1o9sj$1@dont-email.me> <cd44fd5ded4ccdc58ecfd4fd4d9748f4f6453607@i2pn2.org> <6734e1a9$0$1895507$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <9V5ZO.900$8Yrf.862@fx10.iad> <673653a6$6$1782$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <lpn4d4F9kk0U1@mid.individual.net> <6736714e$1$2788$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <lpnhd2FbhlgU1@mid.individual.net> From: Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> In-Reply-To: <lpnhd2FbhlgU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 19 Message-ID: <67381c5d$5$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1731730526 reader.netnews.com 22 127.0.0.1:40521 Bytes: 2328 On 11/14/2024 7:02 PM, S Viemeister wrote: > On 14/11/2024 21:53, Graham wrote: >> On 2024-11-14 1:20 p.m., S Viemeister wrote: >>> On 14/11/2024 19:47, Michael Trew wrote: >>>> Luckily I got the hang of it fairly easily. I found that cold >>>> butter is a much better texture than Crisco. I've never tried lard, >>>> that will be a project for some day. >>> >>> Try half lard, half butter. >> >> Which is what I use, with pastry flour, not AP. I have never used Crisco. > > I tried Crisco once, many years ago. > Once was enough. I've used it a few times. There might be a rancid can buried in the back of the pantry, heh. I'll try half lard if I can find actual lard. I am cautious of the hydrogenated version in at the grocer, and I haven't found the motivation to render lard like Steve.