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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed2-b.proxad.net!nnrp4-1.free.fr!not-for-mail Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of Light From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) Reply-To: jjlxa32@xs4all.nl (J. J. Lodder) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 22:31:54 +0100 References: <d94bdceb842084faf8e9fe0d5b235d73@www.novabbs.com> <vhcblv$i9un$1@dont-email.me> <673a3dfc$2$28067$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <3277b06f14832e9a234420f3705cb2f5@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: De Ster Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.8.5 (ea919cf118) (Mac OS 10.12.6) Lines: 45 Message-ID: <673a60ca$0$12935$426a74cc@news.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Nov 2024 22:31:54 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.10.137.58 X-Trace: 1731879114 news-1.free.fr 12935 213.10.137.58:50421 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Bytes: 2619 ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog <tomyee3@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:03:25 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> wrote: > > > >> On 2024-11-15 21:52:05 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen said: > >> > >>> Time Dilation Can Only be Detected at Velocities Close to the Speed of > >>> Light > >> > >> Is one tenth of c close? At that speed time dilation is easy to observe. > >> > >> Time dilation is observed at the speed of an aeroplane. > >> > >> Oscillators currently studied in laboratories will in near future permit > >> the detection of time dilation at walking speed. > > > > Amost there: > > 0.3 meter of altitude is equivalent to about 9 km/h in speed. > > More than walking, but already less than running, > > Clock with 8?10^?19 Systematic Uncertainty > Alexander Aeppli, Kyungtae Kim, William Warfield, Marianna S. > Safronova, and Jun Ye > Phys. Rev. Lett. 133, 023401 – Published 10 July 2024 > https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.133.023401 > > For a semi-popular account: > Reducing Uncertainty in an Optical Lattice Clock > Han-Ning Dai and Yu-Ao Chen > July 29, 2024• Physics 17, 118 > https://physics.aps.org/articles/v17/118 Yes, but 30 cm altitude difference is what has been demonstrated already. Again, c^2 = 9x10^16, so a clock stability of 10^18 corresponds to an altitude resolution of about 1 cm, [1] Jan [1] See that Wikipedia article on chronometric leveling (aka relativistic geodesy) that needs to be written.