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From: =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Subject: Re: My First HDD Failure (I Think)
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Le 23-11-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On 23 Nov 2024 13:44:24 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> 
>> OK, let's be clear about that. The OS is not important stuff. The OS is
>> the easiest thing to get if you lose a hard disk. Some config files are
>> important, but neither the OS nor the software.
>> 
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  Another idiotic statement 

What? It's difficult to install Linux. For you, I believe it's true. But
for anyone else it's easy.

> from a total idiot.

Still the only one word you know. I'm willing to believe that I know
more insults in English than you. Can't you prove me wrong? When the
only thing you can do is insulting others, at least, you should be able
to show some greatness in it.

> It may be true for YOUR generic and security-crippled OS, but
> not mine.

Two things here. About security, you say in every message you don't take
care of it. And at the same time, you prove your system is as insecure
as only a poorly secured Windows computer could be. Which is not a
little claim. So it's literally impossible for my system to be less
secured than yours. 

Second, the issue doesn't reside in the system to be installed but in
the guy doing it. And it looks like what would be difficult for you
would be easy for me.

> My system is composed of close to 500 packages that are highly
> customized.

Yes 100G of crap. I know. I saw your previous message about it. For the
customization, too, I know it means you apply the defaults, you proved
it sooner. So you only take more time to fail to compile than I take to
succeed to install. So, when you ever made it work, by chance, you have
to save it because you can never be sure your system will ever work
again. It's obvious: a miracle can only happen once. So when it happens
you have to save it. It's not something you should be proud of. It's
something you should hide but, it wouldn't be so funny to read and
answer you.

And, once again, the issue is not abot the system but in the way you
install it.

> About 95% are automatically built be Gentoo Portage

OK, so, it's exactly what I said: it's useless to save it because Gentoo
already did it. So. Exactly. Where Am I wrong stating the obvious even
you can agree? 

> and the remainder are automatically built by my own custom
> scripts.

Let's imagine for a minute that you would be able to write some scripts to
automate things. So, that's exactly what I said: you would only have to
save your scripts, say a few mega, and the scripts would be able to
download the softwares saved by others. So, in your imaginary world, you
would have to just recover your scripts and use them. It would be easy
to recover your system and it wouldn't require 100G.

Now, back to the real world. As I said, the issue is not with the system
but with the one taking care of it. If you were able to script anything,
you wouldn't need to save your all system. So, the only reason why you
need to save your OS is because you are unable to say how you managed to
get something working.

> But to download all the source files and then build
> everything from scratch would require maybe 12-24 hours

Either your script are garbage or your Internet connexion is very
limited. Both explanation are valid and can be true at the same time.
For the connexion, it's not your own fault, depending on your location
well hidden in the country your choices can be very limited. But now,
anyone with the fiber can download a full distro in way less than ten
minutes. So a minimalistic distro like Gentoo is easily downloaded.
Well, I still don't understand how you managed to have 100G for your OS,
it's really impressive.

> (that's just my estimate since I never had to do it).

That, I can believe. You wouldn't be able to launch for real imaginary
scripts.

> A restoration from backup would be the easiest and quickest
> method.

Yes, a backup every couple of years like you said. And then, you'll have
to do all the upgrades and install what wasn't installed at the time of
the backup. So the few minutes of download you saved, thanks for your
backup, would be lost with the updates. So the end result, like I said
is: it's useless to save an OS.

>> OK, you repeatedly say you are involved in everything, including music,
>> and you can't get with inferior things on your computer. So get your mp3
>> garbage out of your messages. It shows you know nothing about good
>> quality sound.
>> 
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  The supreme idiocy continues unabated! 

The same word to insult. Again and again. 

> _I_ am the absolute expert in digital audio.  YOU are the digital dunce
> in everything.

Yes, so you know mp3 is garbage. I can understand someone listening mp3
in the street, there is so many noise outside that the quality loss is
less important than the outside noise. So having a lot of music on a
little device can be a good way to enjoy music. But at home, one a real
WI-FI system? No way. It can't be serious.

> I will offer no further comments because you could never comprehend.
 
Yes, you are right: RUN FORREST! RUN!

> [snip remaining idiotic drivel]

Still your limited insults. Is there any way in which you could be good?

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