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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder.usenetexpress.com!tr2.iad1.usenetexpress.com!news-out.netnews.com!postmaster.netnews.com!us1.netnews.com!not-for-mail X-Trace: DXC=ZFlL3k8K;:Ci;4P:H19W_GHWonT5<]0TMdjI?Uho:XeK=aHS]UU?ATO53l<=V;FkaB:?fbca@;XFB?>4RH0:]o=FfoNKm7c@>0IZMD<:mW_g?BZEGcC5`<fFB X-Complaints-To: support@blocknews.net Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 15:04:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.13.1 Subject: Re: slightly OT.... a clean oven Content-Language: en-US Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking References: <vxt%O.175355$Oi5e.166974@fx15.iad> <lqaeulF5dhfU5@mid.individual.net> <vhpncd$14lap$15@dont-email.me> <lqi7rtFcu7vU5@mid.individual.net> <vi1jm8$2nfc3$9@dont-email.me> <6744bfd5$1$2758$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <lqq7cnFmenhU4@mid.individual.net> <6748f5ab$4$2760$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <vidgqp$19cm0$1@dont-email.me> <vidpaf$1a70h$1@dont-email.me> <3f2b48bc-e909-8de0-ed41-c6031bbb4b6b@example.net> <MPG.41b520b08f905950129@news.individual.net> <vif5f7$1oprs$2@dont-email.me> From: Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> In-Reply-To: <vif5f7$1oprs$2@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 Message-ID: <674cc131$2$3827$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Trace: 1733083442 reader.netnews.com 3827 127.0.0.1:41201 On 11/30/2024 8:54 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote: > On 2024-11-30, Janet <nobody@home.com> wrote: >> >> I grew up in a house without any running water, or a >> bathroom. > > Nowadays, that's illegal everywhere in Michigan. Even the Amish > have to install a bathroom, but they're not required to use it. Who enforces that state-wide? Especially rural and in Amish communities? Where I live, people outside of city limits don't have any sort of zoning or code enforcement to harass them or condemn homes without plumbing. I'd bet that there are still poor rural Ohioans who live without plumbing. Let us not forget the "off the grid" type folks. New construction with county permits would be a different story. I found a 1970's news article of the East Liverpool health department condemning a home not far from mine, due to the long-term elderly inhabitants living in their home without being hooked to the water main, as they always had done, since before running water was available. The article went on to say that kind neighbors pitched in and bought them a septic system, since the city sewer didn't reach that far. I explored the now decades-abandoned house before it was razed, and found that they still had no kitchen plumbing or sink, just the small add-on bathroom.