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Path: ...!news.roellig-ltd.de!open-news-network.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed2-b.proxad.net!nnrp2-1.free.fr!not-for-mail Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: E = 3/4 mc? or E = mc?? The forgotten Hassenohrl 1905 work. From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) Reply-To: jjlxa31@xs4all.nl (J. J. Lodder) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:57:06 +0100 References: <309fb33a3a66f01873fdc890e899a968@www.novabbs.com> <674BCF8E.822@ix.netcom.com> <674CCA90.3DD9@ix.netcom.com> <a89d71ab22cb1e3e279a59fe50ab5ebb@www.novabbs.com> <9f1cd556912a273a8946c77614611242@www.novabbs.com> <8a0014e4135992c8ec7bd3f2f1983164@www.novabbs.com> <d906fde3148d43d339b1663f1127216a@www.novabbs.com> <13877dcc9c6a6f2dd8056d8c05f0c661@www.novabbs.com> <a7d26012926823b22e139af8670cbbe7@www.novabbs.com> <df76d88c3e9729de443afca2c0cf99fa@www.novabbs.com> <2c831e6c7e0103c00fcebe8074fec8db@www.novabbs.com> <7d37d6e841cd1936217b21a5847fc507@www.novabbs.com> <7511bb1b9b748c76df265f91eaaa468a@www.novabbs.com> <67503f94$0$12915$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <3c8abe81804e4c5b6ced7aefae766c7d@www.novabbs.com> <6750b8d4$0$29710$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <d4459e69f16a34d89b68e5f2cdcb59a5@www.novabbs.com> Organization: De Ster Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: MacSOUP/2.8.5 (ea919cf118) (Mac OS 10.12.6) Lines: 52 Message-ID: <67518702$3$11436$426a74cc@news.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Date: 05 Dec 2024 11:57:06 CET NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.10.137.58 X-Trace: 1733396226 news-2.free.fr 11436 213.10.137.58:61816 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Bytes: 3493 ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog <tomyee3@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 20:17:25 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > ProkaryoticCaspaseHomolog <tomyee3@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> The mere fact that theory and over a century of experimental > >> validation have led to the speed of light being adopted as a constant > >> does not invalidate experiments intended to verify to increasing > >> levels of precision the correctness of the assumptions that led to > >> it adoption as a constant. > > > > So you haven't understood what it is all about. > > I rest my case, > > You prematurely rest your case. OK. Maybe I gave up on you to soon. > Since 1983, the speed of light in vacuum has been defined as exactly > equal to 299,792,458 meters per second. Correct, almost. Conceptually better: the meter is defined as.... The CGPM is concerned with how measurements are to be done, not with theoretical proclamations. > Given this definition, is there any point to conducting experiments > to test whether there are anisotropies in the speed of light due to > Earth's motions in space? Such as these: https://tinyurl.com/8hkry7k3 > > The definition of the speed of light is such that there can't be. > > Right? That's where you go wrong. The agreement to give c a defined value is irrelevant to any experiment. It is a convention that tells us how to represent the outcomes of experiments. So the results of an anisotropy of space experiment must be presented (under the SI) as the length of meter rods depending on their orientatation in space. (even if it may loosely be called differently) It has no bearing at all on the possibility of doing such experiments. Jan PS Given unexpected outcomes of such experiments those in the know may of course rethink the SI. No need or use to pre-think such hypothecalities.