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Subject: Re: Gravitational time dilation HOAX along the years
From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2024 10:53:39 +0100
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LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 10:01:16 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> 
> > LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 22:28:45 +0000, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 12/17/2024 11:50 AM, rhertz wrote:
> >>>> EXCERPTS FROM EINSTEIN'S 1911 PAPER:  On the Influence of Gravitation on
> >>>> the Propagation of Light
> > [snip]
> >>> Actually space-contraction after motion was arrived
> >>> at long before that, where what you're looking at
> >>> is ten different things mashed into a muddy wad,
> >>> and what you're looking at is what _you're_ seeing.
> >
> >> Length contraction was one of the first proposed solutions for saving
> >> the ether from the MMX, and was the first discarded as ad hoc nonsense,
> >> and rightly so.
> >
> > Until Lorentz made it respectable,
> > by deriving it from his electron theory.
> > So it is usually called Lorentz contraction these days,
> > (or Lorentz-Fitzgerald)
> >
> > Jan
> It's still ad hoc fiction because nothing can cause all lengths to
> change in unison when all materials are different, least of all relative
> motion.

There are no physical length changes,

Jan